From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759605AbcCDQSd (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2016 11:18:33 -0500 Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net ([194.109.24.26]:46986 "EHLO lb2-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759216AbcCDQSa (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2016 11:18:30 -0500 Message-ID: <1457108303.2651.112.camel@tiscali.nl> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] isdn: i4l: move active-isdn drivers to staging From: Paul Bolle To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: Tilman Schmidt , Christoph Biedl , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, isdn@linux-pingi.de, Greg Kroah-Hartman , devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 17:18:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1659125.tHp8H942OG@wuerfel> References: <1456945629-1793533-1-git-send-email-arnd@arndb.de> <1456945629-1793533-2-git-send-email-arnd@arndb.de> <56D7F62E.6050502@linux-pingi.de> <1659125.tHp8H942OG@wuerfel> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 (3.16.5-3.fc22) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org [Added Tilman and Christoph.] On vr, 2016-03-04 at 16:24 +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > I actually did more patches that I ended up not submitting: > > * move hisax to staging > * remove i4l support from gigaset For the record: I have no reason to object a patch that does that. (I'm not aware anyone complained when gigaset switched its default from i4l to capi. By now all relevant distributions should use our capi driver.) > * move i4l core to staging On a local tree I have two (draft) patches that do some related preliminary work: - isdnhdlc: move into separate directory - mISDN: NETJet: stop selecting ISDN_I4L These trivial patches untangle mISDN and i4l. Perhaps you did something similar in your "move i4l core to staging". > while I initially thought that i4l as a whole is not just unmaintained > but also more or less unused, patch 19cebbcb04c8 ("isdn: Partially > revert debug format string usage clean up") came in that indicated > that > there are still users that even send patches for hisax, and that > made me doubt whether we could consider it obsolete enough. See also commit 3460baa62068 ("PCI: Fix minimum allocation address overwrite"). > Any thoughts on this? If you like, I can send those too. For my part I'm surprised that anyone is still using it. But apparently the hardware that required commit 19cebbcb04c8 and 3460baa62068 (which I'm unfamiliar with) is still operational. And since there never has been, as far as I know, a global i4l to capi migration nor a global i4l (and capi) to mISDN migration it might be that some people are stuck on i4l drivers for their hardware. Perhaps that explains Cristoph's commits. > My main motivation was to not have to fix up the ippp implementation > when I move the compat ioctl handler from fs/compat_ioctl.c > into drivers/net/ppp/ppp_generic.c, but I guess I can do that > anyway as it seems that i4l never worked properly in compat mode. Paul Bolle