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From: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Rajaram R <rajaram.officemail@gmail.com>,
	Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@linux.intel.com>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCHv2] usb: USB Type-C Connector Class
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 11:06:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1464080771.11721.4.camel@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160523170919.GB5964@roeck-us.net>

On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 10:09 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 01:25:19PM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 12:57 +0300, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> >
> > A reset is a generic function, so it does not belong to specific
> > drivers.
> > 
> A would expect the driver to execute the reset.
> 
> Maybe the question should be phrased differently: Even USCI (which
> doesn't provide for everything) has commands to reset the policy
> manager and to reset the connector. The class should provide a means
> to execute those commands.

Yes.

> > So for Alternate Modes we need on a high level the following features
> > 
> > 1. discovery of available Alternate Modes
> > 2. selection of an Alternate Mode
> > 3. notification about entering an Alternate Mode
> > 4. triggering a reset
> > 5. notification about resets
> > 
> > 6. discovery about the current role
> > 7. switching roles
> > 8. setting preferred roles (Try.SRC and Try.SNK)
> > 
> 
> Isn't reset and role handling orthogonal to alternate mode functionality ?
> Both will still be needed even if alternate mode support is not implemented
> at all.

In part. A reset can cause the Alternate Mode to be left unexpectedly
and unintentionally.
So how many APIs do we want?
Three:

- Alternate Modes
- USB PD
- type C for roles and reset

Or another number?

> > I like your API as it is now. But it is incomplete.
> > 
> 
> Same here.

So what is to be done?

	Regards
		Oliver

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-24  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-19 12:44 [RFC PATCHv2] usb: USB Type-C Connector Class Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-19 14:47 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-20 11:24   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-20 13:37     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-21  5:51       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-21  6:43         ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-22 15:54           ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-23  5:34             ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-23 13:27               ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-23 13:58                 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-23 14:43                   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-23 15:55                     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-23 16:52                       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-24 10:08                         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-24 10:18                           ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-24 11:04                             ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-19 14:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-19 15:43   ` Greg KH
2016-05-20 10:58     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-19 17:53 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-20 10:47   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-20 17:02     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-23  9:23       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-20 14:19 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-23  9:57   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-23 11:25     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-23 17:09       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-24  9:06         ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2016-05-24  9:32       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-24 12:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-25 11:28   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-25 15:19     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-27  7:30       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-24 13:42 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-25 11:30   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-25 13:12     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-24 19:28 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-25 11:51   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-25 13:21     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-25 14:04       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-25 14:20         ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-25 14:59           ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-27  7:29             ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-25 18:35 ` [RFC PATCH] usb: typec: Various API updates and fixes Guenter Roeck
2016-05-27  7:55   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-27 14:06     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-30 12:48       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-30 13:19 ` [RFC PATCHv2] usb: USB Type-C Connector Class Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-30 13:59   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-31  8:31     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-31  8:48       ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-31 12:09         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-31 12:43           ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-31 17:20             ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-01  8:23               ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-01  8:31                 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-06-01  9:04                 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-06-01 13:34                   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-02  6:24                     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-06-02  6:37                       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-02  7:43                         ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-31 17:14       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-01  9:26 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-06-01 23:29   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-02  6:30     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-06-02  8:27       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-02 10:18     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-02 16:12       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-03 13:21         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-03 13:51           ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-03 15:17             ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-03 18:39               ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-06 13:28                 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-06 13:35                   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-06-07  8:23                     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-07 16:57                   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-02  8:02   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-03 20:20 ` Pavel Machek
2016-06-06 13:45   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-06 14:41     ` Greg KH
2016-06-07  8:25       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-06 16:02     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-10 14:34 ` [RFC PATCHv3] " Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-11  7:05   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-06-11 18:03     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-13  7:49       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-13  7:48     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-21 13:08 ` [RFC PATCHv2] " Oliver Neukum
2016-06-21 13:24   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-21 19:43     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-06-21 21:37       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-06-21 13:58   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-21 20:43     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-06-22  9:31       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-22 10:08         ` Oliver Neukum
2016-06-22 11:19           ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-08-07 21:37           ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-08  8:52             ` Oliver Neukum

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