From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758486AbcK3Vda (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:33:30 -0500 Received: from shadbolt.e.decadent.org.uk ([88.96.1.126]:59390 "EHLO shadbolt.e.decadent.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757769AbcK3Vd0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:33:26 -0500 Message-ID: <1480541581.16599.78.camel@decadent.org.uk> Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kbuild: enable modversions for symbols exported from asm From: Ben Hutchings To: Linus Torvalds , Nicholas Piggin Cc: Michal Marek , Adam Borowski , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Linux Kbuild mailing list , Debian kernel maintainers , "linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" , Arnd Bergmann , Ingo Molnar , Linux Kernel Mailing List Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 21:33:01 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: <20161129131922.GA31466@angband.pl> <20161129135118.24696-1-kilobyte@angband.pl> <30bb2db4-47bd-0c35-8328-ef032b551f06@suse.com> <20161129195721.GI2697@decadent.org.uk> <20161201051852.28dc335f@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-klxXsQwT7KIXqD7n2dRN" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.2-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a02:8011:400e:2:6f00:88c8:c921:d332 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ben@decadent.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shadbolt.decadent.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --=-klxXsQwT7KIXqD7n2dRN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2016-11-30 at 10:40 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Nicholas Piggin w= rote: > >=20 > > Here's an initial rough hack at removing modversions. It gives an idea > > of the complexity we're carrying for this feature (keeping in mind most > > of the lines removed are generated parser). >=20 > You definitely don't have to try to convince me. We've had many issues > with modversions over the years. This was just the "last drop" as far > as I'm concerned, we've had random odd crc generation failures due to > some build races too. >=20 > > In its place I just added a simple config option to override vermagic > > so distros can manage it entirely themselves. >=20 > So at least Fedora doesn't even enable CONFIG_MODVERSIONS as-is. I'm > _hoping_ it's just Debian that wants this, The last time I looked, RHEL and SLE did. They change the release string for each new kernel version, but they will copy/link old out-of- tree modules into the new version's "weak-updates" module subdirectory if the symbol versions still match. > and we'd need to get some > input from the Debian people whether that "control vermagic" is > sufficient? I suspect it isn't, but I can't come up with any simple > alternate model either.. Allowing the vermagic to be changed separately doesn't help us, as we already control the release string. If we were to change some of the module tools to consider vermagic then it would allow us to report the full version in the release string while not forcing rebuilds on every kernel upgrade - but that's not a pressing problem. One thing that could work for us would be: - Stricter version matching for in-tree modules (maybe some extra part in vermagic that is skipped for out-of-tree modules) - Ability to blacklist use of a symbol, or all symbols in a module, by out-of-tree modules where the blacklist would be a matter of distribution policy. But this would still require a fair amount of work by someone, and I doubt you'd want this upstream. > I'm also somewhat surprised that it's Debian that has this problem, > considering how Debian is usually the distro that is _least_ receptive > to various non-free binaries. If this was just about non-free modules I wouldn't care. There are also many freely licenced out-of-tree modules that for various reasons don't get submitted or accepted upstream; also backports of new or updated drivers. Ben. --=20 Ben Hutchings Never attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by stupidity. --=-klxXsQwT7KIXqD7n2dRN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEErCspvTSmr92z9o8157/I7JWGEQkFAlg/RY0ACgkQ57/I7JWG EQnN2hAAkVAd5Bm3CKx6+QapANdGcirkRHA8kPIUpXF2Nfe0VT+DPvyAz7C8m9BV qRxEQaA6ryCApf0HQuw5j0mgaAEQOkFSU6ScKhb9Jnziuz0BFpeQdenolDIhyNvh ZL/He7GnoPU9xVi86OYVk5TupiVEeKH+5CNTmPytXiYjibeCt/CwPGele1HR7Qra VhnzVH/P6OxD4bcUso/2BPB7upYqcSIvOvaQNLtxHCv6UTUF7mDCVSeu2Z4R34d4 6YG1lU6gUtC3R8mD67GGRQlIDV+vZCQKGhnjRnEbd6hm1UCwcF67LxqyCZwldFAh vFHVgv+ZWNu0ma8TuIjQz7XlO462Mfg+IjL+ZIQwsXNTYcmuv/NMqRR40otUYv00 rltdS14ByLUl9ccTYpuIlzLmH2nlJs0RyZJB1BjE3KCmmo8JffseOhhsGTSBjwiM Oh51EtzVh3c+1zMscyBvjQgNnyy1M0TCIHLdjY1ljyAdGsTM3Wrvpv4yaI+Dlana y0E3nHrJg67m4RpGjnOYBM/huEQ00nAabOKz0lc36HWFDT3+FJ+uuZYdPvaRiZI/ szoQmKWUfmmlnzC1B7WHhILJ281nvhSTSPlljnjpdQ0pEzg0CVpImLRWI9QqNSDJ vkmEOxG6bntWJlf47Kxio0vJg9WG9BfyKvnvgZezizVWef1eqaM= =5O1q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-klxXsQwT7KIXqD7n2dRN--