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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Nicolai Stange <nicstange@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E.McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	gregkh <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	sharon.dvir@intel.com, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: deadlock in synchronize_srcu() in debugfs?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 10:24:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1490347486.2766.17.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1490345799.2766.15.camel@sipsolutions.net>

Hi,

On Fri, 2017-03-24 at 09:56 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-03-23 at 16:29 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > Isn't it possible for the following to happen?
> > 
> > CPU1					CPU2
> > 
> > mutex_lock(&M); // acquires mutex
> > 					full_proxy_xyz();
> > 					srcu_read_lock(&debugfs_srcu);
> > 					real_fops->xyz();
> > 					mutex_lock(&M); // waiting for mutex
> > debugfs_remove(F);
> > synchronize_srcu(&debugfs_srcu);

> So I'm pretty sure that this can happen. I'm not convinced that it's
> happening here, but still.

I'm a bit confused, in that SRCU, of course, doesn't wait until all the
readers are done - that'd be a regular reader/writer lock or something.

However, it does (have to) wait until all the currently active read-
side sections have terminated, which still leads to a deadlock in the
example above, I think?

In his 2006 LWN article Paul wrote:

    The designer of a given subsystem is responsible for: (1) ensuring
    that SRCU read-side sleeping is bounded and (2) limiting the amount
    of memory waiting for synchronize_srcu(). [1]

In the case of debugfs files acquiring locks, (1) can't really be
guaranteed, especially if those locks can be held while doing
synchronize_srcu() [via debugfs_remove], so I still think the lockdep
annotation needs to be changed to at least have some annotation at
synchronize_srcu() time so we can detect this.

Now, I still suspect there's some other bug here in the case that I'm
seeing, because I don't actually see the "mutex_lock(&M); // waiting"
piece in the traces. I'll need to run this with some tracing on Monday
when the test guys are back from the weekend.

I'm also not sure how I can possibly fix this in debugfs in mac80211
and friends, but that's perhaps a different story. Clearly, this
debugfs patch is a good thing - the code will likely have had use-
after-free problems in this situation without it. But flagging the
potential deadlocks would make it a lot easier to find them.

johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-24  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-23 14:54 deadlock in synchronize_srcu() in debugfs? Johannes Berg
2017-03-23 15:29 ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-24  8:56   ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-24  9:24     ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2017-03-24 17:45       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-03-24 18:51         ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-24 19:33           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-03-24 20:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-03-27 11:18               ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-23 15:36 ` Nicolai Stange
2017-03-23 15:47   ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-27 11:36   ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-30  7:32     ` Nicolai Stange
2017-03-30  7:55       ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-30 10:27         ` Nicolai Stange
2017-03-30 11:11           ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-31  9:03             ` Nicolai Stange
2017-03-31  9:44               ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-16  9:51               ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] debugfs: per-file removal protection Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16  9:51                 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] debugfs: add support for more elaborate ->d_fsdata Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16  9:51                 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] debugfs: implement per-file removal protection Nicolai Stange
2017-04-18  2:23                   ` [lkp-robot] [debugfs] f3e7155d08: BUG:unable_to_handle_kernel kernel test robot
2017-04-23 18:37                     ` Nicolai Stange
2017-04-24  6:36                       ` Ye Xiaolong
2017-04-16  9:51                 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] debugfs: debugfs_real_fops(): drop __must_hold sparse annotation Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16  9:51                 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] debugfs: convert to debugfs_file_get() and -put() Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16  9:51                 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] IB/hfi1: " Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16  9:51                 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] debugfs: purge obsolete SRCU based removal protection Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16  9:51                 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] debugfs: call debugfs_real_fops() only after debugfs_file_get() Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16  9:51                 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] debugfs: defer debugfs_fsdata allocation to first usage Nicolai Stange
2017-04-18  9:36                   ` Johannes Berg
2017-05-02 20:05                     ` Nicolai Stange
2017-05-03  5:43                       ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-16  9:51                 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] debugfs: free debugfs_fsdata instances Nicolai Stange
2017-04-17 16:01                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-04-18  9:39                     ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-18 13:31                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-04-18 13:40                         ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-18 15:17                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-04-18 15:20                             ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-18 17:19                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-03-23 15:37 ` deadlock in synchronize_srcu() in debugfs? Paul E. McKenney
2017-03-23 15:46   ` Johannes Berg

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