From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
ak@linux.intel.com, mhocko@kernel.org, dave@stgolabs.net,
jack@suse.cz, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
mpe@ellerman.id.au, paulus@samba.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
hpa@zytor.com, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
haren@linux.vnet.ibm.com, khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
npiggin@gmail.com, bsingharora@gmail.com,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/20] mm: Provide speculative fault infrastructure
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 07:14:37 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1503954877.4850.19.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170828093727.5wldedputadanssh@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Mon, 2017-08-28 at 11:37 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Doing all this job and just give up because we cannot allocate page tables
> > looks very wasteful to me.
> >
> > Have you considered to look how we can hand over from speculative to
> > non-speculative path without starting from scratch (when possible)?
>
> So we _can_ in fact allocate and install page-tables, but we have to be
> very careful about it. The interesting case is where we race with
> free_pgtables() and install a page that was just taken out.
>
> But since we already have the VMA I think we can do something like:
That makes me extremely nervous... there could be all sort of
assumptions esp. in arch code about the fact that we never populate the
tree without the mm sem.
We'd have to audit archs closely. Things like the page walk cache
flushing on power etc...
I don't mind the "retry" .. .we've brought stuff in the L1 cache
already which I would expect to be the bulk of the overhead, and the
allocation case isn't that common. Do we have numbers to show how
destrimental this is today ?
Cheers,
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-28 21:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-17 22:04 [PATCH v2 00/20] Speculative page faults Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] mm: Dont assume page-table invariance during faults Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] mm: Prepare for FAULT_FLAG_SPECULATIVE Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] mm: Introduce pte_spinlock " Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] mm: VMA sequence count Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] mm: Protect VMA modifications using " Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] mm: RCU free VMAs Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] mm: Cache some VMA fields in the vm_fault structure Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] mm: Protect SPF handler against anon_vma changes Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] mm/migrate: Pass vm_fault pointer to migrate_misplaced_page() Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] mm: Introduce __lru_cache_add_active_or_unevictable Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] mm: Introduce __maybe_mkwrite() Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] mm: Introduce __vm_normal_page() Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] mm: Introduce __page_add_new_anon_rmap() Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] mm: Provide speculative fault infrastructure Laurent Dufour
2017-08-20 12:11 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-25 8:52 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-27 0:18 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-08-28 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-28 21:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2017-08-28 22:35 ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-29 8:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 8:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 11:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 21:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-08-30 6:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 7:59 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-29 12:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 13:18 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-29 13:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-30 5:03 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-30 5:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-30 9:32 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-31 6:55 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-31 7:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-30 9:53 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-30 3:48 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-30 5:25 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-30 8:56 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] mm: Try spin lock in speculative path Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] mm: Adding speculative page fault failure trace events Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] perf: Add a speculative page fault sw event Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21 8:55 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-22 1:46 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] perf tools: Add support for the SPF perf event Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21 8:48 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-25 8:53 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] x86/mm: Add speculative pagefault handling Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21 7:29 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-29 14:50 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-29 14:58 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] powerpc/mm: Add speculative page fault Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21 6:58 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-29 15:13 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21 2:26 ` [PATCH v2 00/20] Speculative page faults Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-08 9:24 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-09-11 0:45 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-11 6:28 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21 6:28 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-22 0:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-25 9:41 ` Laurent Dufour
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