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From: Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 17/27] x86/cet/shstk: User-mode shadow stack support
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:03:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1531504984.11680.21.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A034EC34-13E7-4AEF-BB3C-FEF14143B601@amacapital.net>

On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 15:21 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > 
> > On Jul 11, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 2:34 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Jul 11, 2018, at 2:10 PM, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:31 PM Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > This patch adds basic shadow stack enabling/disabling routines.
> > > > > A task's shadow stack is allocated from memory with VM_SHSTK
> > > > > flag set and read-only protection.  The shadow stack is
> > > > > allocated to a fixed size.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>
> > > > [...]
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cet.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cet.c
> > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > index 000000000000..96bf69db7da7
> > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cet.c
> > > > [...]
> > > > > 
> > > > > +static unsigned long shstk_mmap(unsigned long addr, unsigned long len)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +       struct mm_struct *mm = current->mm;
> > > > > +       unsigned long populate;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       down_write(&mm->mmap_sem);
> > > > > +       addr = do_mmap(NULL, addr, len, PROT_READ,
> > > > > +                      MAP_ANONYMOUS | MAP_PRIVATE, VM_SHSTK,
> > > > > +                      0, &populate, NULL);
> > > > > +       up_write(&mm->mmap_sem);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       if (populate)
> > > > > +               mm_populate(addr, populate);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       return addr;
> > > > > +}
> > [...]
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Should the kernel enforce that two shadow stacks must have a guard
> > > > page between them so that they can not be directly adjacent, so that
> > > > if you have too much recursion, you can't end up corrupting an
> > > > adjacent shadow stack?
> > > I think the answer is a qualified “no”. I would like to instead enforce a general guard page on all mmaps that don’t use MAP_FORCE. We *might* need to exempt any mmap with an address hint for
> > > compatibility.
> > I like this idea a lot.
> > 
> > > 
> > > My commercial software has been manually adding guard pages on every single mmap done by tcmalloc for years, and it has caught a couple bugs and costs essentially nothing.
> > > 
> > > Hmm. Linux should maybe add something like Windows’ “reserved” virtual memory. It’s basically a way to ask for a VA range that explicitly contains nothing and can be subsequently be turned into
> > > something useful with the equivalent of MAP_FORCE.
> > What's the benefit over creating an anonymous PROT_NONE region? That
> > the kernel won't have to scan through the corresponding PTEs when
> > tearing down the mapping?
> Make it more obvious what’s happening and avoid accounting issues?  What I’ve actually used is MAP_NORESERVE | PROT_NONE, but I think this still counts against the VA rlimit. But maybe that’s
> actually the desired behavior.

We can put a NULL at both ends of a SHSTK to guard against corruption.

Yu-cheng 


  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-13 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-10 22:26 [RFC PATCH v2 00/27] Control Flow Enforcement (CET) Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/27] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPUIDs for Control-flow Enforcement Technology (CET) Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Change some names to separate XSAVES system and user states Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Enable XSAVES system states Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Add XSAVES system states for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/27] Documentation/x86: Add CET description Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11  8:27   ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-11 15:25     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11  9:57   ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-11 13:47     ` H.J. Lu
2018-07-11 14:53       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/27] x86/cet: Control protection exception handler Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/27] x86/cet/shstk: Add Kconfig option for user-mode shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/27] mm: Introduce VM_SHSTK for shadow stack memory Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11  8:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 16:15     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/27] x86/mm: Change _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_DIRTY_HW Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/27] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_DIRTY_SW Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11  8:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11  9:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/27] x86/mm: Modify ptep_set_wrprotect and pmdp_set_wrprotect for _PAGE_DIRTY_SW Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:44   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-10 23:23     ` Nadav Amit
2018-07-10 23:52       ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11  8:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/27] x86/mm: Shadow stack page fault error checking Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:52   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11 17:28     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 23:24   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/27] mm: Handle shadow stack page fault Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 23:06   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11  9:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-08-14 21:28       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/27] mm: Handle THP/HugeTLB " Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 23:08   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11  9:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 16:11     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-20 14:20   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-20 14:58     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/27] mm/mprotect: Prevent mprotect from changing shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 23:10   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11  9:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 16:07       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11 16:22         ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/27] mm: Modify can_follow_write_pte/pmd for " Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 23:37   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11 17:05     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-13 18:26       ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-17 23:03         ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-17 23:11           ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-17 23:15           ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-18 20:14             ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-18 21:45               ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-18 23:10                 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-19  0:06                   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-19 17:06                     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-19 19:31                       ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11  9:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-17 23:00     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/27] x86/cet/shstk: User-mode shadow stack support Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 23:40   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11  9:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 15:45     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11  9:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 21:10   ` Jann Horn
2018-07-11 21:34     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-11 21:51       ` Jann Horn
2018-07-11 22:21         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-13 18:03           ` Yu-cheng Yu [this message]
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/27] x86/cet/shstk: Introduce WRUSS instruction Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 23:48   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-12 22:59     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-12 23:49       ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-13  1:50         ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-13  2:21           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-13  4:16             ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-13  4:18               ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-13 17:39                 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-13  5:55               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-11  9:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 15:06     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11 15:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11  9:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 14:58     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11 15:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 15:41         ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-13 12:12   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-13 17:37     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/27] x86/cet/shstk: Signal handling for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/27] x86/cet/shstk: ELF header parsing of CET Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11 11:12   ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-11 19:37   ` Jann Horn
2018-07-11 20:53     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/27] x86/cet/ibt: Add Kconfig option for user-mode Indirect Branch Tracking Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/27] x86/cet/ibt: User-mode indirect branch tracking support Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11  0:11   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11 22:10     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11 22:40       ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11 23:00         ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11 23:16           ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-13 17:56             ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-13 18:05               ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11 21:07   ` Jann Horn
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 23/27] mm/mmap: Add IBT bitmap size to address space limit check Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 23:57   ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-11 16:56     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 24/27] x86: Insert endbr32/endbr64 to vDSO Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 25/27] x86/cet: Add PTRACE interface for CET Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11 10:20   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-07-11 15:40     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-12 14:03       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-07-12 22:37         ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-12 23:08           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-07-13 16:07             ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-13  6:28         ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-13 13:33           ` Ingo Molnar
2018-07-14  6:27             ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 26/27] x86/cet/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-10 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 27/27] x86/cet: Add arch_prctl functions for CET Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11 12:19   ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-11 21:02     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-07-11 19:45   ` Jann Horn
2018-07-11 20:55     ` Yu-cheng Yu

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