On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 20:11 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > That is interesting. As I replied to Paul, we are already calling > > rcu_user_enter/exit() on guest_enter/exit_irqsoff(). So I'm wondering why > > you're seeing such an optimization by repeating those calls. > >  > > Perhaps the rcu_user_* somehow aren't actually called from > > __context_tracking_enter()...? Some bug in context tracking? > > Otherwise it's a curious side effect. > > David is working with v4.15.  Is this maybe something that has changed > since then? To clarify: in 4.15 without CONFIG_PREEMPT and without NO_HZ_FULL I was seeing RCU stalls because a thread in vcpu_run() was *never* seen to go through a quiescent state. Hence the change to need_resched() in the first patch in this thread, which fixed the problem at hand and seemed to address the general case. It then seemed by *inspection* that the NO_HZ_FULL case was probably broken, because we'd failed to spot the rcu_user_* calls. But rcu_user_enter() does nothing in the !NO_HZ_FULL case, so wouldn't have helped in the testing that we were doing anyway.