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From: Leo Yan <>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <>,
	"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <>,
	Daniel Lezcano <>,
	Vincent Guittot <>,, Linux PM <>
Cc: Leo Yan <>
Subject: [RESEND PATCH v1 1/2] cpuidle: menu: Correct the criteria for stopping tick
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 01:20:02 +0800
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The criteria for keeping tick running is the prediction duration is less
than TICK_USEC, the mainline kernel configures HZ=250 so TICK_USEC equals
to 4000us, so any prediction is less than 4000us will not stop tick and
the idle state will be fixed up to one shallow state.  On the other hand,
let's use 96boards Hikey (CA53 octa-CPUs) as an example, the platform has
the deepest C-state is cluster off state which its 'target_residency' is
2700us, if the 'menu' governor predicts the next idle duration is any
value fallen into the range [2700us, 4000us), then the 'menu' governor
will keep sched tick running and and roll back to a shallow CPU off state
rather than cluster off state.  Finally we can see the CPU has much less
chance to run into deepest state when a task repeatedly running on it
with 5000us period and 40% duty cycle (so the task runs for 2000us and
then sleep for 3000us in every period).  In theory, we should permit the
CPU to stay in cluster off state due the CPU sleeping time 3000us is
over its 'target_residency' 2700us.

This issue is caused by the 'menu' governor's criteria for decision if
need to enable tick and roll back to shallow state, the criteria is:
'expected_interval < TICK_USEC'.  This criteria is only considering from
tick aspect, but it doesn't consider idle state residency so misses
better choice for deeper idle state; e.g., the deepest idle state
'target_residency' is less than TICK_USEC, which is quite common on Arm

To fix this issue, this patch is to add one extra variable
'stop_tick_point' to help decision if need to stop tick or not.  If
prediction is longer than 'stop_tick_point' then we can stop tick,
otherwise it will keep tick running.

For 'stop_tick_point', except we need to compare prediction period with
TICK_USEC, we also need consider from the perspective of deepest idle
state 'target_residency'.  Finally, 'stop_tick_point' is coming from the
minimum value within the deepest idle state 'target_residency' and

Cc: Daniel Lezcano <>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <>
Signed-off-by: Leo Yan <>
 drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
 1 file changed, 39 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c b/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c
index 30ab759..2ce4068 100644
--- a/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c
+++ b/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c
@@ -294,6 +294,7 @@ static int menu_select(struct cpuidle_driver *drv, struct cpuidle_device *dev,
 	unsigned int expected_interval;
 	unsigned long nr_iowaiters, cpu_load;
 	ktime_t delta_next;
+	unsigned int stop_tick_point;
 	if (data->needs_update) {
 		menu_update(drv, dev);
@@ -406,11 +407,47 @@ static int menu_select(struct cpuidle_driver *drv, struct cpuidle_device *dev,
 		idx = 0; /* No states enabled. Must use 0. */
+	 * Decide the time point for tick stopping, if the prediction is before
+	 * this time point it's better to keep the tick enabled and after the
+	 * time point it means the CPU can stay in idle state for enough long
+	 * time so should stop the tick.  This point needs to consider two
+	 * factors: the first one is tick period and the another factor is the
+	 * maximum target residency.
+	 *
+	 * We can divide into below cases:
+	 *
+	 * The first case is the prediction is shorter than the maximum target
+	 * residency and also shorter than tick period, this means the
+	 * prediction isn't to use deepest idle state and it's suppose the CPU
+	 * will be waken up within tick period, for this case we should keep
+	 * the tick to be enabled;
+	 *
+	 * The second case is the prediction is shorter than the maximum target
+	 * residency and longer than tick period, for this case the idle state
+	 * selection has already based on the prediction for shallow state and
+	 * we will expect some events can arrive later than tick to wake up the
+	 * CPU; another thinking for this case is the CPU is likely to stay in
+	 * the expected idle state for long while (which should be longer than
+	 * tick period), so it's reasonable to stop the tick.
+	 *
+	 * The third case is the prediction is longer than the maximum target
+	 * residency, but weather it's longer or shorter than tick period; for
+	 * this case we have selected the deepest idle state so it's pointless
+	 * to enable tick to wake up CPU from deepest state.
+	 *
+	 * To summary upper cases, we use the value of min(TICK_USEC,
+	 * maximum_target_residency) as the critical point to decide if need to
+	 * stop tick.
+	 */
+	stop_tick_point = min_t(unsigned int, TICK_USEC,
+			drv->states[drv->state_count-1].target_residency);
+	/*
 	 * Don't stop the tick if the selected state is a polling one or if the
-	 * expected idle duration is shorter than the tick period length.
+	 * expected idle duration is shorter than the estimated stop tick point.
 	if ((drv->states[idx].flags & CPUIDLE_FLAG_POLLING) ||
-	    expected_interval < TICK_USEC) {
+	    expected_interval < stop_tick_point) {
 		unsigned int delta_next_us = ktime_to_us(delta_next);
 		*stop_tick = false;

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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-09 17:20 [RESEND PATCH v1 0/2] Optimization CPU idle state impacted by tick Leo Yan
2018-08-09 17:20 ` Leo Yan [this message]
2018-08-09 20:47   ` [RESEND PATCH v1 1/2] cpuidle: menu: Correct the criteria for stopping tick Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-08-10  7:13     ` leo.yan
2018-08-10  7:22       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-08-10  8:49         ` leo.yan
2018-08-10  9:03           ` leo.yan
2018-08-12 11:12             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-08-12 16:07               ` leo.yan
2018-08-13  8:01                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-08-13  9:58                   ` leo.yan
2018-08-09 17:20 ` [RESEND PATCH v1 2/2] cpuidle: menu: Dismiss tick impaction on correction factors Leo Yan
2018-08-09 21:06   ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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