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From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: baolu.lu@linux.intel.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
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	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
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	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 09/14] PCI: portdrv: Suppress kernel DMA ownership auto-claiming
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 09:53:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1545319f-130e-3750-ea00-082a12b73852@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220106183224.GA298861@bhelgaas>

On 1/7/22 2:32 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 12:12:35PM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
>> On 1/5/22 1:06 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 09:56:39AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
>>>> If a switch lacks ACS P2P Request Redirect, a device below the switch can
>>>> bypass the IOMMU and DMA directly to other devices below the switch, so
>>>> all the downstream devices must be in the same IOMMU group as the switch
>>>> itself.
>>> Help me think through what's going on here.  IIUC, we put devices in
>>> the same IOMMU group when they can interfere with each other in any
>>> way (DMA, config access, etc).
>>>
>>> (We said "DMA" above, but I guess this would also apply to config
>>> requests, right?)
>>
>> I am not sure whether devices could interfere each other through config
>> space access. The IOMMU hardware only protects and isolates DMA
>> accesses, so that userspace could control DMA directly. The config
>> accesses will always be intercepted by VFIO. Hence, I don't see a
>> problem.
> 
> I was wondering about config accesses generated by an endpoint, e.g.,
> an endpoint doing config writes to a peer or the upstream bridge.
> 
> But I think that is prohibited by spec - PCIe r5.0, sec 7.3.3, says
> "Propagation of Configuration Requests from Downstream to Upstream as
> well as peer-to-peer are not supported" and "Configuration Requests
> are initiated only by the Host Bridge, including those passed through
> the SFI CAM mechanism."

That's clear. Thank you for the clarification.

> 
> Bjorn
> 

Best regards,
baolu

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-07  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-04  1:56 [PATCH v5 00/14] Fix BUG_ON in vfio_iommu_group_notifier() Lu Baolu
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] iommu: Add dma ownership management interfaces Lu Baolu
2022-01-04 10:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-04 16:41     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-01-04 19:23       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06  3:18         ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-06  3:54         ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-06 15:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07  1:50             ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-06  3:43       ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-06  3:47       ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-06  3:51       ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-05  6:57     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] driver core: Add dma_cleanup callback in bus_type Lu Baolu
2022-01-04 10:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-04 12:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-04 13:04       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-02-08  5:55         ` Lu Baolu
2022-02-08 11:35           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-02-14 10:01     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-02-14 10:02   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] amba: Stop sharing platform_dma_configure() Lu Baolu
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] driver core: platform: Add driver dma ownership management Lu Baolu
2022-02-14  9:59   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-02-14 13:18     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-14 13:37       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-02-14 13:43         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] amba: " Lu Baolu
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] bus: fsl-mc: " Lu Baolu
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] PCI: " Lu Baolu
2022-02-14 10:03   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-02-14 12:38     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-14 12:51       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-02-14 13:11         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-14 13:39           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-02-14 13:43             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-15  3:06               ` Lu Baolu
2022-02-23 18:00   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-02-23 18:07     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] PCI: pci_stub: Suppress kernel DMA ownership auto-claiming Lu Baolu
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] PCI: portdrv: " Lu Baolu
2022-01-04 17:06   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-01-04 19:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-04 19:51       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-01-05  0:35         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06  4:12     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-06 18:32       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-01-07  1:53         ` Lu Baolu [this message]
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] vfio: Set DMA ownership for VFIO devices Lu Baolu
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] vfio: Remove use of vfio_group_viable() Lu Baolu
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] vfio: Delete the unbound_list Lu Baolu
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] vfio: Remove iommu group notifier Lu Baolu
2022-01-04  1:56 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] iommu: Remove iommu group changes notifier Lu Baolu
2022-01-04 12:48 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] Fix BUG_ON in vfio_iommu_group_notifier() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-05  6:52   ` Lu Baolu
2022-02-18  1:07 ` Lu Baolu

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