From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263625AbTDWVes (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:34:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263631AbTDWVes (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:34:48 -0400 Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.129]:43705 "EHLO e31.co.us.ibm.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263625AbTDWVer (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:34:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 14:36:21 -0700 From: "Martin J. Bligh" To: Werner Almesberger cc: Matthias Schniedermeyer , Marc Giger , linux-kernel , pat@suwalski.net Subject: Re: [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered. Message-ID: <1560860000.1051133781@flay> In-Reply-To: <20030423183413.C1425@almesberger.net> References: <21660000.1051114998@[10.10.2.4]> <20030423164558.GA12202@citd.de> <1508310000.1051116963@flay> <20030423183413.C1425@almesberger.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.2 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> Actually, I agree with the submitter. Having the volume default to 0 >> is stupid - userspace tools are all very well, but no substitute for >> sensible kernel defaults. > > You've obviously never been to a meeting/conference and booted > a Linux notebook with a kernel that sets things to a non-zero > default :-) Irrelevant really, since everyone's proposition is that the distro should save and restore it from userspace. Which I actually agree with. I'm more concerned with new installs, and the poor user having no idea why his sound card "doesn't work". Been there myself. Pain in the ass. M.