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From: Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>
To: "Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky" <inaky.perez-gonzalez@intel.com>
Cc: "'Tom Zanussi'" <zanussi@us.ibm.com>,
	"'karim@opersys.com'" <karim@opersys.com>,
	"'Martin Hicks'" <mort@wildopensource.com>,
	"'Daniel Stekloff'" <dsteklof@us.ibm.com>,
	"'Patrick Mochel'" <mochel@osdl.org>,
	"'Randy.Dunlap'" <rddunlap@osdl.org>,
	"'hpa@zytor.com'" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"'pavel@ucw.cz'" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"'jes@wildopensource.com'" <jes@wildopensource.com>,
	"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'wildos@sgi.com'" <wildos@sgi.com>
Subject: RE: [patch] printk subsystems
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 01:00:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16036.55959.965058.999149@lepton.softprops.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A46BBDB345A7D5118EC90002A5072C780C263837@orsmsx116.jf.intel.com>

Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky writes:
 > 
 > > From: Tom Zanussi [mailto:zanussi@us.ibm.com]
 > > 
 > > It seems to me that when comparing apples to apples, namely
 > > considering the complete lifecycle of an event, ... <snip>
 > > 
 > > While kue_send_event() in itself is very simple and efficient, it's
 > > only part of the story, the other parts being the copy_to_user() ...
 > 
 > Agreed - my mistake here in the comparison for leaving out that stuff.
 > 
 > > event.  While kue can avoid this kernel-side copy, it's not possible
 > > for it to avoid the copy_to_user() since its design precludes mmapping
 > > the kernel data.  Again, six of one, half dozen of another.  kue looks
 > 
 > Sure - those things, I would say, they compensate one another, 
 > except for that mmap() detail that pushes the balance towards relayfs
 > regarding effectiveness when delivering the messages; I think that
 > at the end the difference should not be too big as the copying of
 > the data in kue to user space should roughly compensate by the copying
 > of the data to the relayfs buffer; after all, a copy is a copy.
 > No data to back this claim though, I am just thinking a mental 
 > schematic of the lifetime of a bit in both systems out loud.
 > 

Right.  This is what I meant when I said the two were very similar
when considering the lifetime of a single event, ignoring everything
else such as bulk processing via mmap() vs. iterating through a list,
as discussed elsewhere.

 > Or, again, I am missing something ...
 > 
 > Iñaky Pérez-González -- Not speaking for Intel -- all opinions are my own
 > (and my fault)
 > 

-- 
Regards,

Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>
IBM Linux Technology Center/RAS


  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-22  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-22  3:04 [patch] printk subsystems Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-22  6:00 ` Tom Zanussi [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-24 18:56 Manfred Spraul
2003-04-24 19:10 ` bob
2003-04-23  0:28 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-22 22:53 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-23  3:58 ` Tom Zanussi
2003-04-22 19:02 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-22 19:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-22 21:52 ` Tom Zanussi
2003-04-22 18:46 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-22 23:28 ` Karim Yaghmour
2003-04-22  5:09 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-24 18:22 ` bob
2003-04-22  4:02 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-22  5:52 ` Karim Yaghmour
2003-04-22  6:04 ` Tom Zanussi
2003-04-22  2:49 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-22  4:34 ` Karim Yaghmour
2003-04-21 18:42 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-21 18:23 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-21 18:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-17 19:58 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-17 20:34 ` Karim Yaghmour
2003-04-17 21:03   ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-17 21:37     ` Tom Zanussi
2003-04-18  7:21     ` Tom Zanussi
2003-04-18  7:42     ` Greg KH
2003-04-21 15:56     ` Karim Yaghmour
2003-04-08 23:15 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-07 20:13 Martin Hicks
2003-04-08 18:41 ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-08 20:02   ` Jes Sorensen
2003-04-08 21:02     ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-08 21:10       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-08 21:57         ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-08 22:02           ` Jes Sorensen
2003-04-08 22:05           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-08 22:55             ` Martin Hicks
2003-04-08 23:10               ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-04-14 18:33                 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-04-14 22:33                   ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-04-16 18:42                     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-04-16 12:35                       ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-04-16 19:16                       ` Martin Hicks
2003-04-16 12:43                         ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-04-17 15:56                           ` Martin Hicks
2003-04-17 13:58                             ` Karim Yaghmour
2003-04-15 13:27                   ` Martin Hicks
2003-04-15 14:40                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2003-04-08 22:00       ` Jes Sorensen
2003-04-11 19:21 ` Martin Hicks

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