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From: Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	jplatte@naasa.net, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	James.Bottomley@steeleye.com
Subject: Re: regression: 100% io-wait with 2.6.24-rcX
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:19:06 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <166634.14296.qm@web32603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)

----- Original Message ----
> From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> To: Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> Cc: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>; Mike Snitzer <snitzer@gmail.com>; Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>; jplatte@naasa.net; Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; "linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>; Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>; James.Bottomley@steeleye.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:12:21 PM
> Subject: Re: regression: 100% io-wait with 2.6.24-rcX
> 
> On (17/01/08 13:50), Martin Knoblauch didst pronounce:
> > > 
> > 
> > The effect  is  defintely  depending on  the  IO  hardware.
> > 
 performed the same tests
> > on a different box with an AACRAID controller and there things
> > look different.
> 
> I take it different also means it does not show this odd performance
> behaviour and is similar whether the patch is applied or not?
>

Here are the numbers (MB/s) from the AACRAID box, after a fresh boot:

Test           2.6.19.2   2.6.24-rc6  2.6.24-rc6-81eabcbe0b991ddef5216f30ae91c4b226d54b6d
dd1             325       350             290
dd1-dir       180       160             160
dd2             2x90     2x113         2x110
dd2-dir       2x120   2x92            2x93
dd3            3x54      3x70           3x70
dd3-dir      3x83      3x64           3x64
mix3          55,2x30  400,2x25   310,2x25

 What we are seing here is that:

a) DIRECT IO takes a much bigger hit (2.6.19 vs. 2.6.24) on this IO system compared to the CCISS box
b) Reverting your patch hurts single stream
c) dual/triple stream are not affected by your patch and are improved over 2.6.19
d) the mix3 performance is improved compared to 2.6.19.
d1) reverting your patch hurts the local-disk part of mix3
e) the AACRAID setup is definitely faster than the CCISS.

 So, on this box your patch is definitely needed to get the pre-2.6.24 performance
when writing a single big file.

 Actually things on the CCISS box might be even more complicated. I forgot the fact
that on that box we have ext2/LVM/DM/Hardware, while on the AACRAID box we have
ext2/Hardware. Do you think that the LVM/MD are sensitive to the page order/coloring?

 Anyway: does your patch only address this performance issue, or are there also
data integrity concerns without it? I may consider reverting the patch for my
production environment. It really helps two thirds of my boxes big time, while it does
not hurt the other third that much :-)

> > 
> >  I can certainly stress the box before doing the tests. Please
> > define "many" for the kernel compiles :-)
> > 
> 
> With 8GiB of RAM, try making 24 copies of the kernel and compiling them
> all simultaneously. Running that for for 20-30 minutes should be enough
> 
 to randomise the freelists affecting what color of page is used for the
> dd  test.
> 

 ouch :-) OK, I will try that.

Martin




             reply	other threads:[~2008-01-18  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-18  8:19 Martin Knoblauch [this message]
2008-01-18 16:01 ` regression: 100% io-wait with 2.6.24-rcX Mel Gorman
2008-01-18 17:46   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 19:01     ` Martin Knoblauch
2008-01-18 19:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-22 14:39       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-01-18 20:00     ` Mike Snitzer
2008-01-18 22:47       ` Mike Snitzer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-23 11:12 Martin Knoblauch
2008-01-22 18:51 Martin Knoblauch
2008-01-22 15:25 Martin Knoblauch
2008-01-22 23:40 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-01-19 10:24 Martin Knoblauch
2008-01-17 21:50 Martin Knoblauch
2008-01-17 22:12 ` Mel Gorman
2008-01-17 17:51 Martin Knoblauch
2008-01-17 17:44 Martin Knoblauch
2008-01-17 20:23 ` Mel Gorman
2008-01-17 13:52 Martin Knoblauch
2008-01-17 16:11 ` Mike Snitzer
2008-01-16 14:15 Martin Knoblauch
2008-01-16 16:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2008-01-16  9:26 Martin Knoblauch
     [not found] ` <E1JF6w8-0000vs-HM@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16 12:00   ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-07 10:51 Joerg Platte
2008-01-07 11:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-07 13:24   ` Joerg Platte
2008-01-07 13:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-07 13:40       ` Joerg Platte
     [not found]         ` <E1JCRbA-0002bh-3c@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-09  3:27           ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-09  6:13             ` Joerg Platte
     [not found]               ` <E1JCZg2-0001DE-RP@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-09 12:04                 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-09 12:22                   ` Joerg Platte
     [not found]                     ` <E1JCaUd-0001Ko-Tt@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-09 12:57                       ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-09 13:04                         ` Joerg Platte
     [not found]                           ` <E1JCrMj-0001HR-SZ@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-10  6:58                             ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                           ` <E1JCrsE-0000v4-Dz@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-10  7:30                             ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                           ` <20080110073046.GA3432@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
     [not found]                             ` <E1JCsDr-0002cl-0e@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-10  7:53                               ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-10  8:37                                 ` Joerg Platte
     [not found]                                   ` <E1JCt0n-00048n-AD@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-10  8:43                                     ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-10 10:03                                       ` Joerg Platte
     [not found]                                         ` <E1JDBk4-0000UF-03@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-11  4:43                                           ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-11  5:29                                             ` Joerg Platte
2008-01-11  6:41                                               ` Joerg Platte
2008-01-12 23:32                                             ` Joerg Platte
     [not found]                                               ` <E1JDwaA-00017Q-W6@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-13  6:44                                                 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-13  8:05                                                   ` Joerg Platte
     [not found]                                                     ` <E1JDy5a-0001al-Tk@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-13  8:21                                                       ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-13  9:49                                                         ` Joerg Platte
     [not found]                                                           ` <E1JE1Uz-0002w5-6z@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-13 11:59                                                             ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                                                           ` <20080113115933.GA11045@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
     [not found]                                                             ` <E1JEGPH-0001uw-Df@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-14  3:54                                                               ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                                                             ` <20080114035439.GA7330@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
     [not found]                                                               ` <E1JEM2I-00010S-5U@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-14  9:55                                                                 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-14 11:30                                                                   ` Joerg Platte
2008-01-14 11:41                                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                                                                       ` <E1JEOmD-0001Ap-U7@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-14 12:50                                                                         ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-15 21:13                                                                           ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                                                                             ` <E1JF0m1-000101-OK@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16  5:25                                                                               ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-15 21:42                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                                           ` <E1JF0bJ-0000zU-FG@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16  5:14                                                                             ` Fengguang Wu

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