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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:59:00 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org 
     regarding reiser4 inclusion
From: "Luigi Genoni" <genoni@sns.it>
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On Wed, July 26, 2006 02:44, David Masover wrote:
> Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>
>> to use as his default.  Now that we paid the 5 year development price tag
>> to get everything as plugins, we can now upgrade in littler pieces than
>> any other FS.  Hmm, I need a buzz phrase, its not extreme programming,
>> maybe "moderate programming".  Does that sound exciting to
>
> Hah!  No, it doesn't sound exciting.
>
>
> Plugins don't work well either, not as a marketing concept.  People have
> had so many bad experiences with plugins, and they're only ever visible when
> you have a bad experience.  Think about it -- missing plugin (so you have to
> download it),
>
marketing?
</joke mode on>
if you do not like the word "plugin" why don't you suggest some alternative?
like "modules"?
</joke mode off>

Seriously, please leave out this kind of marketing. The plugin concept in
reiser4 is probably the most interessant feature I filesystem some users
could need.

>
> Fluid programming?  If you build a solution from the bottom up with
> gravel or large rocks, you leave gaps that are hard to fill without ripping
> off the top layer and redoing it.  But if you can do fluid programming, your
> program just flows around any obstacle, and into every crack / between every
> space (metaphor for new customer requirements)...

probably I do not know english enought well to appraciate this metaphor and
to understand what it means.