From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261228AbVBQXgr (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:36:47 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261242AbVBQXf6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:35:58 -0500 Received: from simmts12.bellnexxia.net ([206.47.199.141]:35481 "EHLO simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261247AbVBQXeb (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:34:31 -0500 Message-ID: <1742.10.10.10.24.1108683124.squirrel@linux1> In-Reply-To: <200502171825.08631.tomlins@cam.org> References: <20050214020802.GA3047@bitmover.com> <4214CC9B.7090001@nortel.com> <3757.10.10.10.24.1108659538.squirrel@linux1> <200502171825.08631.tomlins@cam.org> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:32:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed From: "Sean" To: "Ed Tomlinson" Cc: "Chris Friesen" , "Lee Revell" , "d.c" , tytso@mit.edu, cs@tequila.co.jp, galibert@pobox.com, kernel@crazytrain.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-7 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, February 17, 2005 6:25 pm, Ed Tomlinson said: >> Yes, I do remember that post. But i'm not arguing from an ideological >> basis; i'm arguing on practical grounds that the price of using BK is >> too >> high for its supposed benefits. I've not seen anyone else make that > > Huh? This ideology in my books. No. It's about recognizing the needs of more people than just the few at the top. Besides, with a free tool at the Head, bk could continue to be used underneath by Linus and anyone else. And others in the community could use their preferred tools too. > Linus has tried other SCMs. They did not suffice. I remember the preBK > days, when you had to post a patch half a dozen time to get it merged. > Patches were being missed left right and center. This changed after BK. > We _are_ getting large benefits from BK. They may be hard to see at our > side of the keyboard - but I believe Linus when he says BK is the best > tool for him. That this probably will not be the case for ever. Think > it still is for now though. It's not a choice between BK or nothing. Much of the improvements you're attributing to BK would have been realized with any other SCM system too. Cheers, Sean