From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A08C48BE0 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159DE613C8 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231597AbhFKLMQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:12:16 -0400 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.133.124]:45939 "EHLO us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230460AbhFKLMM (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:12:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1623409814; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Dh0bJRcSaHuNu8U4NSShPd3vbPRVolZwKmUYsaTKAQw=; b=Z13uSIy/1dnmdkT41plt+iL/k1SPUYZu+QIEg29seWqX928OvwABBZQjeyW9v2JjjBXvpY pFOl4o/k/3nfjywz6M0i/KGaKDkvdAwC9bzIyJpElZ8T/Jz9takfqD8dWcIhhd2FPIRx8v nwSazcgxDc5VD1xDm/2avM8oYKzEfr0= Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-284-7nA1G_z5PKijruvWiu4UjA-1; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:10:13 -0400 X-MC-Unique: 7nA1G_z5PKijruvWiu4UjA-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx07.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C87B08BB401; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from warthog.procyon.org.uk (ovpn-112-32.rdu2.redhat.com [10.10.112.32]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFA81001281; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Red Hat UK Ltd. Registered Address: Red Hat UK Ltd, Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SI4 1TE, United Kingdom. Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 3798903 From: David Howells In-Reply-To: References: To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, James Bottomley , Greg KH , Christoph Lameter , Theodore Ts'o , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1745325.1623409807.1@warthog.procyon.org.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:10:07 +0100 Message-ID: <1745326.1623409807@warthog.procyon.org.uk> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.22 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Umm. Let's remember that the vaccines are 33-93% effective [1], > which means that there's approximately a 100% certainty that at least > one person arriving at the event from a trans-atlantic flight has been > exposed to someone who has the virus. I'm not convinced that holding a > "more relaxed protocol" event is a great idea. One thing that concerns me about flying to the US is going through multiple busy international airports - take Heathrow which didn't separate incoming travellers from red-listed countries from those of amber- or green- until like a week ago. Would it be practical/economical to charter a plane to fly, say, from a less busy airport in Europe to a less busy airport in the US and back again if we could get enough delegates together to make it worthwhile? Chartering seems to be costed on miles flown rather than passenger count, but I've only looked into it very briefly. David