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From: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Losing Technologists [was: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion]
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 10:11:02 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17601.27926.317390.21740@cse.unsw.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: message from Hans Reiser on Friday July 21


Hi Hans,

On Friday July 21, reiser@namesys.com wrote:
> 
> Linux has a problem, which is that with success it is attracting people
> with more skill than what it started with, and it is not doing a very
> good job of handling that.

You seem to be saying that technological skills are the most important
thing for Linux.  I disagree.  Linux is a success because of a great
community as much (probably more) than because it has great
technology.

And by "great community", I don't mean "completely harmonious" but
rather "board and effective".  Good community members follow the rule
"Be liberal in what you accept, conservative in what you transmit".
And the first if these is the more important.

Not everyone in the community is perfect at this, but it is clear to
me that those who excel at this are what makes the community work.

>                                                      We have lost quite
> a number of FS developers who just don't want to deal with people who
> know less than they do but are obnoxious and disrespectful to
> submissions because they enjoy powertripping. 

This just tells me that they wouldn't make good community members -
they are not sufficiently liberal in what they accept.

It really isn't that hard to filter out the rubbish and look for the
genuine technical content.  For some people there isn't any of the
later so you just ignore them.  For others there is real technical
content in what they say and you can respond to that while ignoring
the rubbish.

>                                                        lkml suffers from
> email disease, and we need to make conscious efforts to reduce that.

Yes. But as this is a free and open community, we cannot exclude or
censor people.  The only emails that we can directly control are our
own.   We should expect the general standard of the community to be
below the standard we present, and aim accordingly.  I see this
happening.  It works.  The community isn't perfect, but it could be a
lot worse.

> Actually, if we just had a few more akpms to go around, things would be
> a lot better..... oh well.  We need to recruit more people like
> him. 

Yes, and no.
Certainly a few more akpms would improve the technology, and would
allow our current akpm to catch up with his workload.
But I don't think a few more of anything would dramatically change the
community.  There will always be people who attract flames, and others
who are too willing to provide them.
New members to the community really need to sit back for a while and
figure out who is who.  Who is worth listening to.  Who is best
ignored (except for entertainment value).  Who to ask questions of,
etc.
It really is worth the effort.

There is plenty of historical evidence that the best technology
doesn't always win out - there are plenty of other factors to
success.  So don't be too concerned if we lose a few brilliant
technologists - it isn't the end of the world (domination).

NeilBrown

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-22  0:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 594+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-21 19:46 the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Hans Reiser
2006-07-22  0:11 ` Neil Brown [this message]
2006-07-22  0:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-22 19:19   ` Diego Calleja
2006-07-22 13:02 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-22 14:30   ` Eric Sandeen
2006-07-22 18:33   ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-22 20:29     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-23  7:20       ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-23  9:12         ` Matt Heler
2006-07-24  4:01           ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-24  8:54             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24  8:13               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-24 10:25                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24 11:34                   ` Christian Iversen
2006-07-24 12:37                     ` Erik Mouw
2006-07-24 16:57                   ` Mike Benoit
2006-07-24 17:35                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24 18:28                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-24 18:06                     ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-24 20:37                       ` Mike Benoit
2006-07-24 21:22                         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-24 21:51                         ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-25 15:08                           ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-07-25 20:49                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-25 23:04                               ` David Masover
2006-07-26 11:20                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-26 11:26                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-26 13:02                                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-07-26 18:54                                     ` Buddy Lucas
2006-07-27  1:29                                   ` David Masover
2006-07-26  0:29                           ` David Masover
2006-07-26  0:36                             ` David Lang
2006-07-26  0:47                               ` David Masover
2006-07-31 10:58                       ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 14:47                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 15:59                           ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 16:22                             ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 16:44                               ` David Masover
2006-07-31 17:34                                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-07-31 18:36                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 16:44                               ` Rudy Zijlstra
2006-07-31 17:20                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 17:32                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 17:46                                   ` Dan Oglesby
2006-07-31 18:11                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 18:43                                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 19:17                                       ` Clay Barnes
2006-07-31 19:29                                         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 20:00                                           ` David Masover
2006-07-31 20:53                                             ` the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.orgregarding " David Lang
2006-07-31 21:16                                               ` David Masover
2006-07-31 21:14                                           ` the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding " Bernd Schubert
2006-08-01 14:28                                             ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-01 14:52                                               ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01 15:29                                                 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-01 16:44                                                   ` David Masover
2006-08-01 17:04                                                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2006-08-01 12:01                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 17:41                                                       ` David Masover
2006-08-01 18:14                                                         ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01 17:19                                                     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-01 11:36                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 17:40                                                       ` David Masover
2006-08-01 19:27                                                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-08-03 13:58                                                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-03 23:25                                                           ` Checksumming blocks? [was Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion] Russell Leighton
2006-08-03 23:35                                                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-04  0:01                                                               ` Russell Leighton
2006-08-04 11:41                                                             ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-08-04 20:42                                                               ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-04 20:51                                                             ` David Masover
2006-08-01 18:11                                                   ` the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01 18:21                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2006-08-01 11:41                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-03 14:03                                                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-03 15:44                                                         ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-03 17:26                                                           ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-04 17:04                                                             ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-04 18:57                                                               ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-05  1:02                                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-05  0:56                                                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-06 22:19                                                                 ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-09  8:40                                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-09 11:53                                                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-09 15:48                                                                       ` David Masover
2006-08-07  7:57                                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-08 11:06                                                             ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-01 19:11                                                     ` David Masover
2006-08-03 14:03                                                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-03 16:50                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-01 16:57                                               ` David Masover
2006-08-06 22:59                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-06 23:36                                                   ` David Masover
2006-08-09  8:37                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-09  9:48                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-09  9:15                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-09 15:52                                                     ` David Masover
2006-07-31 19:42                                         ` Alan Cox
2006-07-31 19:34                                           ` Clay Barnes
2006-07-31 21:00                                           ` Gregory Maxwell
2006-07-31 21:40                                             ` Alan Cox
2006-07-31 21:43                                               ` David Masover
2006-07-31 21:54                                             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 22:02                                               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 22:21                                                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 22:56                                               ` Nate Diller
2006-07-31 23:52                                                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-31 23:43                                                   ` Nate Diller
2006-08-01  0:15                                                     ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2006-07-31 22:17                                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 21:21                                   ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2006-07-31 16:47                               ` Dan Oglesby
2006-07-31 17:16                                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-31 17:34                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 17:44                                   ` Dan Oglesby
2006-07-31 16:54                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 17:56                               ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 20:07                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 20:32                                   ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 19:41                               ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-31 22:53                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-01  2:33                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-31 19:18                             ` Solaris ZFS on Linux [Was: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion] Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-31 20:57                               ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-07-31 21:54                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-31 23:21                                   ` Nate Diller
2006-07-31 23:27                                     ` David Lang
2006-07-31 23:50                                       ` Nate Diller
2006-07-31 23:55                                         ` David Lang
2006-08-01  0:05                                           ` Nate Diller
2006-08-01  1:02                                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-01  1:25                                               ` Nate Diller
2006-08-01  1:31                                               ` David Masover
2006-08-01  3:00                                                 ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-01  3:38                                                   ` David Masover
2006-08-01  3:47                                                   ` Timothy Webster
2006-08-01  4:24                                                     ` David Masover
2006-08-01  4:41                                                       ` Solaris ZFS on Linux [Was: Re: the " 'official' point of view"expressed " David Lang
2006-08-01  4:57                                                         ` David Masover
2006-08-01  6:48                                                         ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-01  2:40                                                           ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 10:59                                                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-01 10:56                                                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01  7:24                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2006-08-01  9:25                                                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-01  9:38                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2006-08-01 17:03                                                           ` David Masover
2006-08-01  4:38                                                   ` Solaris ZFS on Linux [Was: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed " Mike Benoit
2006-08-01  4:21                                                 ` Solaris ZFS on Linux [Was: Re: the " 'official' point of view"expressed " David Lang
2006-08-01  4:32                                                   ` David Masover
2006-08-01  4:53                                                     ` Solaris ZFS on Linux [Was: Re: the " 'official' point of view"expressedby " David Lang
2006-08-01  5:59                                                       ` David Masover
2006-08-01 23:50                                                     ` Solaris ZFS on Linux [Was: Re: the " 'official' point of view"expressed by " Ian Stirling
2006-08-02  2:29                                                       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-08-02 14:28                                                         ` Solaris ZFS on Linux Krzysztof Halasa
2006-08-02 18:12                                                           ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-03  2:20                                                           ` Wil Reichert
2006-08-03  9:32                                                             ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-02  3:52                                                       ` Solaris ZFS on Linux [Was: Re: the " 'official' point of view"expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion] David Masover
2006-08-01  7:51                                               ` Solaris ZFS on Linux [Was: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed " Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01  9:09                                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-01  9:57                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2006-08-01 10:57                                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-01 13:15                                                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-08-01 13:40                                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-31 22:08                                 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-31 23:25                                   ` Nate Diller
2006-08-01  7:47                                   ` Adrian Ulrich
2006-08-01 10:40                             ` the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Helge Hafting
2006-08-01 10:59                               ` venom
2006-07-31 16:52                           ` David Masover
2006-08-01  6:22                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-26 13:17                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-27 15:39                   ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-07-27 17:28                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-28  2:40                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-27 17:56                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-27 19:06                     ` David Masover
2006-07-28  2:26                     ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-28 11:15                       ` metadata plugins (was Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion) Jeff Garzik
2006-07-28 14:02                         ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-28 15:48                           ` David Masover
2006-07-28 16:33                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-28 11:57                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-28 19:44                                 ` David Masover
2006-07-28 13:34                                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-28 21:53                                     ` David Masover
2006-07-29  1:36                                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-29  9:12                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-29 18:11                                           ` David Masover
     [not found]                                             ` <1986618636.20060730024539@wp.pl>
     [not found]                                               ` <44CC06A7.1030104@namesys.com>
2006-07-30 10:30                                                 ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2006-08-07 22:00                                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-29 12:28                                         ` Nikita Danilov
2006-07-29 18:31                                           ` David Masover
2006-07-29 18:57                                             ` Nikita Danilov
2006-07-29 23:01                                             ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-30 10:13                                             ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2006-07-30 15:33                                               ` David Masover
2006-07-29 22:58                                           ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-31 11:58                                             ` Nikita Danilov
2006-07-29 18:25                                         ` David Masover
2006-07-31 13:28                                         ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-28 23:08                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-29  3:20                                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-07 21:56                                         ` ext3 vs reiserfs speed (was Re: metadata plugins (was Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion)) Pavel Machek
2006-07-29 10:30                                     ` metadata plugins (was Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion) Łukasz Mierzwa
2006-07-29 10:31                                     ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2006-07-30 18:41                                     ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-28 20:14                                   ` Hua Zhong
2006-07-28 13:40                                     ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 15:32                               ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2006-08-01 16:43                                 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2006-08-02 18:45                                   ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-02 17:07                                     ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2006-08-05  1:01                                     ` David Masover
2006-07-23 11:48         ` the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-07-23 20:46         ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-23 21:15           ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-23 23:22             ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-23 22:35               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-25 19:13         ` Russell Cattelan
2006-07-25 23:51           ` David Masover
2006-07-26 14:26             ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-26 18:16               ` Russell Cattelan
2006-07-27  1:19                 ` David Masover
2006-07-26  0:44         ` David Masover
2006-07-26  7:59           ` the ' 'official' point of view' " Luigi Genoni
2006-07-26 14:33           ` the " 'official' point of view" " Hans Reiser
2006-07-26 10:38         ` David Weinehall
2006-07-24  8:41       ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24  8:09         ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-24 10:32           ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-24 13:49         ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-23  7:20   ` Rene Rebe
2006-07-24  7:49     ` Nikita Danilov
2006-07-25 12:35       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-07-25 12:51         ` Rene Rebe
2006-07-25 17:47         ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-25 19:20           ` Francesco Biscani
2006-07-25 21:17           ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-25 22:48             ` Jim Crilly
2006-07-25 23:48               ` andrea
2006-07-25 23:45             ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-26 12:45           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 13:29             ` andrea
2006-07-26 13:43               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 14:28                 ` andrea
2006-07-26 14:50                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 16:06                     ` andrea
2006-07-26 16:53                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 17:02                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-26 17:20                         ` andrea
2006-07-26 19:01                           ` Jerome Pinot
2006-07-26 20:50                             ` andrea
2006-07-26 20:50                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-26 21:17                             ` andrea
2006-07-26 21:37                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-26 22:17                                 ` andrea
2006-07-27  6:56                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27  8:33                                 ` the ' 'official' point of view' " Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 10:04                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 11:07                                     ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 11:35                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 11:43                                         ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 11:56                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 13:30                                       ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-27 13:42                                         ` gmu 2k6
2006-07-27 13:50                                         ` andrea
2006-07-27 14:31                                         ` Luigi Genoni
2006-07-27 18:37                                           ` Jim Crilly
2006-07-27 19:34                                             ` andrea
2006-07-27 18:43                                           ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-27 20:11                                             ` andrea
2006-07-27 12:21                                     ` CaT
2006-07-28  2:25                                     ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-28 10:01                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-28 14:05                                       ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-27 11:52                                 ` the " 'official' point of view" " andrea
2006-07-27 12:18                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 13:10                                     ` andrea
2006-07-27 13:58                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 14:45                                         ` andrea
2006-07-27 15:05                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-27 16:11                                             ` andrea
2006-07-28  2:25                                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-28 14:31                                                 ` andrea
2006-07-28  1:47                                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-27  4:35                             ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-27 13:26                               ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-24  2:08   ` Steve Lord
2006-07-24  7:53     ` Nikita Danilov
2006-07-24 10:30       ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-24 11:35         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-24 13:39           ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-24 15:38             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-24 16:17               ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-24 17:50                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-24 18:29                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-26 13:08               ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-27 15:52                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-27 21:42                   ` suspend2 merge history [was Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion] Pavel Machek
2006-07-27 23:22                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-28 14:01                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-29 19:23                         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-29 21:19                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-29 21:56                             ` Hua Zhong
2006-07-29 22:54                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-30 22:25                                 ` Hua Zhong
2006-07-30 23:07                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-31 14:28                                     ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-31 16:23                                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-31 18:55                                     ` Hua Zhong
2006-07-31 23:08                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-01  1:09                                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-29 23:19                               ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-29 23:28                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-29 23:47                               ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-30 12:57                             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-30 14:34                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-29 23:31                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-27 16:43                 ` the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Alan Cox
2006-07-25 21:44         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-24 22:17 ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-25  8:05   ` Hans Reiser
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2005-12-03 14:29 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-12-03 20:19   ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 21:04     ` M.
2005-12-03 21:37       ` James Courtier-Dutton
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2005-12-03 21:12       ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 21:31         ` M.
2005-12-03 21:38           ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-03 21:53             ` M.
2005-12-03 22:26               ` Greg KH
2005-12-04  7:56               ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]                 ` <f0cc38560512040657i58cc08efqa8596c357fcea82e@mail.gmail.com>
2005-12-04 15:10                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 16:11                     ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 16:41                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 20:08                         ` Paul Jackson
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2005-12-04 22:47                       ` Greg KH
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2005-12-04 23:12                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-05  1:03                         ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-05 19:35                     ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-03 21:54           ` Greg KH
2005-12-06  1:19         ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 17:55           ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 22:51     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-03 23:28       ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 23:35       ` Chris Wright
2005-12-06  0:37         ` Rob Landley
2005-12-07 21:38           ` Nix
2005-12-04  8:07       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-05 20:33       ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06  1:10         ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-06 10:46           ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-06 14:01           ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 16:52             ` Gene Heskett
2005-12-04  3:48     ` Jesper Juhl
2005-12-04 11:56       ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 23:24         ` Greg KH
2005-12-05  6:26           ` Willy Tarreau
2005-12-05 10:00             ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-05 10:55             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-12-05 11:34               ` Willy Tarreau
2005-12-05 11:40                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-12-05 12:01                   ` Willy Tarreau
2005-12-05 12:24                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-12-05 12:26                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-06 17:54             ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 18:57               ` John Kelly
2005-12-06 21:55                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-06 22:40                   ` John Kelly
2005-12-05 18:51           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-06 17:50             ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 22:50               ` Policy for reverting user ABI breaking patches was " Andi Kleen
2005-12-06 18:42                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-06 14:32           ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]             ` <6f6293f10512060855p79fb5e91ke6fca33f96cb1750@mail.gmail.com>
2005-12-06 17:47               ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 23:27                 ` David S. Miller
2005-12-06 19:01             ` Lee Revell
2005-12-04 17:00     ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-12-04 22:39       ` Greg KH
2005-12-05 15:17         ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-12-05 15:44           ` Pekka Enberg
2005-12-05 17:17             ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-12-06 17:44           ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 21:16             ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-07 14:38             ` Massimiliano Hofer
2005-12-07 16:05               ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-07 16:29                 ` Massimiliano Hofer
2005-12-05 14:48     ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 17:46       ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 14:31 ` Ben Collins
2005-12-03 19:35   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-03 19:57     ` Lee Revell
2005-12-03 21:04       ` M.
2005-12-03 22:58       ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-03 23:49         ` Lee Revell
2005-12-05 21:05           ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-05 21:41             ` Lee Revell
2005-12-05 23:00               ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-05 23:06                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-12-06  0:08                   ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-05 21:00         ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-05 21:06           ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-06  0:43             ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 11:21               ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-06 15:10                 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 16:45                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-07 11:29                   ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-07 13:54                     ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-08  3:29                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-08  8:29                       ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-10  0:22                 ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06 20:35               ` Alan Cox
2005-12-05 23:03   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-06  1:48     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-06 11:23       ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-06 19:48       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-06  1:56     ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-03 14:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-03 15:23   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-03 15:39     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 13:53       ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-12-05  9:47       ` Michael Frank
2005-12-06  0:54         ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-06 17:08           ` Michael Frank
2005-12-03 16:27     ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-03 16:40       ` Otavio Salvador
2005-12-03 16:58       ` David Ranson
2005-12-03 17:13         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-03 17:17           ` David Ranson
2005-12-03 17:53             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-03 18:17               ` newbie - mdadm create raid1 mirrors on large drives Larry Bates
2005-12-03 22:23                 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 22:13                 ` Neil Brown
2005-12-03 18:34               ` RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel David Ranson
2005-12-03 22:27                 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-03 22:34                   ` Lee Revell
2005-12-03 22:50                     ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04  0:20                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-04  4:46                         ` Luke-Jr
2005-12-04 15:06                           ` Michael Frank
2005-12-04 23:22                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-05  5:59                             ` Luke-Jr
2005-12-06  0:34                               ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06 10:34                                 ` Luke-Jr
2005-12-06 19:17                                   ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06 17:38                               ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 14:58                             ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-06 17:59                               ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 21:10                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-06 21:51                                   ` Kay Sievers
2005-12-10  2:16                               ` Rob Landley
2005-12-10  4:04                                 ` Greg KH
2005-12-05 22:47                         ` Rob Landley
2005-12-05 23:05                           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-12-06  3:19                             ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06  3:32                               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-12-06  5:49                                 ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06 10:51                             ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-06  3:15                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-06  3:23                             ` Rob Landley
2005-12-03 22:36                   ` David Ranson
2005-12-03 22:50                     ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-06 14:59                     ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-04  1:04                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-04 12:07                     ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 19:29                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-06 20:01                     ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-05 20:43                 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-05  3:31               ` Rob Landley
2005-12-05 16:17                 ` Mark Lord
2005-12-05 16:28                   ` Lee Revell
2005-12-05 16:44                     ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-05 17:17                       ` Lee Revell
2005-12-05 17:55                         ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-05 20:52                           ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-05 21:21                             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-05 23:09                               ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06  0:54                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-06  1:10                                   ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06  1:26                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-06 18:06                                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-06  3:22                                   ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06  1:06                               ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 11:09                             ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-05 17:58                     ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06 18:51                       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-07 15:48                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 18:40                           ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-07 18:14                         ` Rob Landley
2005-12-10  8:35                           ` ipw2200 [was Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel] Pavel Machek
2005-12-11  5:30                             ` Rob Landley
2005-12-11  8:37                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-11  9:12                                 ` Rob Landley
2005-12-12 11:49                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-14 12:26                                     ` Rob Landley
2004-12-14 16:01                                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-11 16:26                               ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-12 17:34                               ` Ben Slusky
2005-12-12 20:02                                 ` Rob Landley
     [not found]                                   ` <439DE10E.4080901@tmr.com>
2005-12-12 21:52                                     ` Ben Slusky
2005-12-15  2:38                                       ` ipw2200 Miles Bader
2005-12-10 13:41                           ` RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel Bill Davidsen
2005-12-10 17:05                             ` Douglas McNaught
2005-12-11  5:52                               ` Rob Landley
2005-12-12  3:25                               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-11  5:33                             ` Rob Landley
2005-12-05 21:22                     ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-06 14:59                     ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-05 18:44                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-03 18:21             ` Mark Lord
2005-12-03 19:22               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-04  3:32                 ` Mark Lord
2005-12-03 22:21             ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-03 22:29               ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 22:41                 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-03 22:48                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-03 17:22       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-03 17:35         ` M.
2005-12-03 23:05         ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-03 23:37           ` Greg KH
2005-12-04  0:52           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-04 12:12             ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 12:32               ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 13:28                 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 13:35                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 14:25                     ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 14:50                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 15:08                         ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 15:11                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 15:36                           ` Andreas Schwab
2005-12-04 16:17                             ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-05  3:09                               ` Joel Becker
2005-12-06 20:13                                 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-04 15:20                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 16:23                         ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 15:25                       ` Richard Knutsson
2005-12-04 15:23                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-05 23:51                         ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06 20:40                         ` Matan Peled
2005-12-04 19:57             ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-04 21:35             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-12-05  0:43               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-05  9:06                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-12-06  0:41                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-06  9:38                     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-12-03 18:43     ` Golden rule: don't break userland (was Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel) Jeff Garzik
2005-12-03 20:34       ` Greg KH
2005-12-04  1:40         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-04 23:29           ` Greg KH
2005-12-05 21:41             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-03 22:35       ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 15:37       ` Michael Frank
2005-12-05  3:23     ` RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel Rob Landley
2005-12-10 19:48     ` Ryan Anderson
2005-12-03 18:39 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2005-12-03 20:59 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-12-03 21:13   ` Dave Jones
2005-12-03 21:18     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-12-03 21:42       ` [OT] " Michael Buesch
2005-12-03 22:40       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-03 23:02     ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-03 23:09       ` Dave Jones
2005-12-06  0:14   ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 13:20     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-12-06 13:37       ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-04 12:56 ` Indrek Kruusa
2005-12-04 13:05   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 15:26     ` Indrek Kruusa
2005-12-05 23:43   ` Rob Landley
2005-12-05 19:30 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-05 23:25   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-06 11:28   ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-06 13:25   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-12-06 20:46     ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-12 14:45 ` Felix Oxley
2005-12-12 17:17   ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-12 18:53     ` Felix Oxley
2005-12-13 13:17       ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-14  0:09         ` Felix Oxley
     [not found] <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
2002-12-04 11:34 ` #! incompatible -- binfmt_script.c broken? Matthias Andree
2002-12-04 14:26   ` Alex Riesen
2002-12-04 15:23     ` Matthew Garrett
2002-12-04 18:37     ` Matthias Andree
2002-12-04 20:37       ` Matthew Garrett
2002-12-04 22:28         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-05 11:55         ` Matthias Andree
2002-12-05  0:42     ` Horst von Brand
2002-12-05 11:38       ` Matthias Andree
2002-12-04 22:25   ` Andries Brouwer
2002-12-05  0:10   ` Horst von Brand

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