From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Force max frequency on busy CPUs
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:42:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1806807.jsYc59y1La@aspire.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <135462462.sTWZ8TCakW@aspire.rjw.lan>
On Sunday, March 19, 2017 10:24:24 PM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Sunday, March 19, 2017 02:34:32 PM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> >
> > The PELT metric used by the schedutil governor underestimates the
> > CPU utilization in some cases. The reason for that may be time spent
> > in interrupt handlers and similar which is not accounted for by PELT.
> >
> > That can be easily demonstrated by running kernel compilation on
> > a Sandy Bridge Intel processor, running turbostat in parallel with
> > it and looking at the values written to the MSR_IA32_PERF_CTL
> > register. Namely, the expected result would be that when all CPUs
> > were 100% busy, all of them would be requested to run in the maximum
> > P-state, but observation shows that this clearly isn't the case.
> > The CPUs run in the maximum P-state for a while and then are
> > requested to run slower and go back to the maximum P-state after
> > a while again. That causes the actual frequency of the processor to
> > visibly oscillate below the sustainable maximum in a jittery fashion
> > which clearly is not desirable.
>
> In case you are wondering about the actual numbers, attached are two turbostat
> log files from two runs of the same workload, without (before.txt) and with (after.txt)
> the patch applied.
>
> The workload is essentially "make -j 5" in the kernel source tree and the
> machine has an SSD storage and a quad-core Intel Sandy Bridge processor.
> The P-states available for each core are between 8 and 31 (0x1f) corresponding
> to 800 MHz and 3.1 GHz, respectively. All cores can run sustainably at 2.9 GHz
> at the same time, although that is not a guaranteed sustainable frequency
> (it may be dropped occasionally for thermal reasons, for example).
>
> The interesting columns are Bzy_MHz (and specifically the rows with "-" under
> CPU that correspond to the entire processor), which is the avreage frequency
> between iterations based on the numbers read from feedback registers, and
> the rightmost one, which is the values written to the P-state request register
> (the 3rd and 4th hex digits from the right represent the requested P-state).
>
> The turbostat data collection ran every 2 seconds and I looked at the last 30
> iterations in each case corresponding to about 1 minute of the workload run
> during which all of the cores were around 100% busy.
>
> Now, if you look at after.txt (the run with the patch applied), you'll notice that
> during those last 30 iterations P-state 31 (0x1f) had been requested on all
> cores pretty much 100% of the time (meaning: as expected in that case) and
> the average processor frequency (computed by taking the average from
> all of the 30 "-" rows) was 2899.33 MHz (apparently, the hardware decided to
> drop it from 2.9 GHz occasionally).
>
> In the before.txt case (without the patch) the average frequency over the last
> 30 iterations was 2896.90 MHz which is about 0.8% slower than with the patch
> applied (on the average).
0.08% of course, sorry. Still visible, though. :-)
Thanks,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-19 21:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-19 13:21 [PATCH 0/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Fix and optimization Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-19 13:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Fix per-CPU structure initialization in sugov_start() Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 3:28 ` Viresh Kumar
2017-03-20 12:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-19 13:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Force max frequency on busy CPUs Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-19 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-19 21:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2017-03-20 10:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-20 12:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 3:57 ` Viresh Kumar
2017-03-20 8:26 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-20 12:34 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-22 23:56 ` Joel Fernandes
2017-03-23 22:08 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-25 3:48 ` Joel Fernandes
2017-03-27 6:59 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-20 12:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 13:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-20 12:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-20 12:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 12:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-20 13:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 13:06 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-20 13:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 14:13 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-20 21:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Avoid decreasing frequency of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 6:40 ` Viresh Kumar
2017-03-21 12:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 8:50 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-21 11:56 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-21 13:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 13:37 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-21 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 14:18 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-21 14:25 ` Patrick Bellasi
[not found] ` <CAKfTPtALorn7HNpz4LOfWWSc3u+9y5iHB5byzfTHGQXDA+tVJQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-03-21 14:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 17:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-21 17:01 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-21 14:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 14:38 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-21 14:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 14:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 15:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 15:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 17:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 17:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 15:08 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-21 15:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 19:28 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-21 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 11:50 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-21 23:08 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Avoid reducing frequency of busy CPUs prematurely Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-22 9:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-22 9:54 ` Viresh Kumar
2017-03-23 1:04 ` Joel Fernandes
2017-03-23 19:26 ` Sai Gurrappadi
2017-03-23 20:48 ` Sai Gurrappadi
2017-03-24 1:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-24 19:08 ` Sai Gurrappadi
2017-03-25 1:14 ` Sai Gurrappadi
2017-03-25 1:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-27 7:04 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-27 21:01 ` Sai Gurrappadi
2017-03-27 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-08 3:49 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-05-08 4:01 ` Viresh Kumar
2017-05-08 5:15 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-05-08 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-08 22:36 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-05-08 23:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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