From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Cc: "Boris Ostrovsky" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 11/39] KVM: x86/xen: evtchn signaling via eventfd
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 12:55:54 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <18e854e2a84750c2de2d32384710132b83d84286.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e83f6438-7256-1dc8-3b13-5498fd5bbed1@oracle.com>
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On Mon, 2020-11-30 at 12:17 +0000, Joao Martins wrote:
> On 11/30/20 9:41 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Wed, 2019-02-20 at 20:15 +0000, Joao Martins wrote:
> > > userspace registers a @port to an @eventfd, that is bound to a
> > > @vcpu. This information is then used when the guest does an
> > > EVTCHNOP_send with a port registered with the kernel.
> >
> > Why do I want this part?
> >
>
> It is unnecessary churn to support eventfd at this point.
>
> The patch subject/name is also a tad misleading, as
> it implements the event channel port offloading with the optional fd
> being just a small detail in addition.
Right, I'd got that the commit title overstated its importance, but was
wondering why the optional fd existed at all.
I looked through the later xen_shim parts, half expecting it to be used
there... but no, they add their own special case next to the place
where eventfd_signal() gets called, instead of hooking the shim up via
an eventfd.
> > > EVTCHNOP_send short-circuiting happens by marking the event as pending
> > > in the shared info and vcpu info pages and doing the upcall. For IPIs
> > > and interdomain event channels, we do the upcall on the assigned vcpu.
> >
> > This part I understand, 'peeking' at the EVTCHNOP_send hypercall so
> > that we can short-circuit IPI delivery without it having to bounce
> > through userspace.
> >
> > But why would I then want then short-circuit the short-circuit,
> > providing an eventfd for it to signal... so that I can then just
> > receive the event in userspace in a *different* form to the original
> > hypercall exit I would have got?
> >
>
> One thing I didn't quite do at the time, is the whitelisting of unregistered
> ports to userspace. Right now, it's a blacklist i.e. if it's not handled in
> the kernel (IPIs, timer vIRQ, etc) it goes back to userspace. When the only
> ones which go to userspace should be explicitly requested as such
> and otherwise return -ENOENT in the hypercall.
Hm, why would -ENOENT be a fast path which needs to be handled in the
kernel?
> Perhaps eventfd could be a way to express this? Like if you register
> without an eventfd it's offloaded, otherwise it's assigned to userspace,
> or if neither it's then returned an error without bothering the VMM.
I much prefer the simple model where the *only* event channels that the
kernel knows about are the ones it's expected to handle.
For any others, the bypass doesn't kick in, and userspace gets the
KVM_EXIT_HYPERCALL exit.
> But still, eventfd is probably unnecessary complexity when another @type
> (XEN_EVTCHN_TYPE_USER) would serve, and then just exiting to userspace
> and let it route its evtchn port handling to the its own I/O handling thread.
Hmm... so the benefit of the eventfd is that we can wake the I/O thread
directly instead of bouncing out to userspace on the vCPU thread only
for it to send a signal and return to the guest? Did you ever use that,
and it is worth the additional in-kernel code?
Is there any reason we'd want that for IPI or VIRQ event channels, or
can it be only for INTERDOM/UNBOUND event channels which come later?
I'm tempted to leave it out of the first patch, and *maybe* add it back
in a later patch, putting it in the union alongside .virq.type.
struct kvm_xen_eventfd {
#define XEN_EVTCHN_TYPE_VIRQ 0
#define XEN_EVTCHN_TYPE_IPI 1
__u32 type;
__u32 port;
__u32 vcpu;
- __s32 fd;
#define KVM_XEN_EVENTFD_DEASSIGN (1 << 0)
#define KVM_XEN_EVENTFD_UPDATE (1 << 1)
__u32 flags;
union {
struct {
__u8 type;
} virq;
+ struct {
+ __s32 eventfd;
+ } interdom; /* including unbound */
__u32 padding[2];
};
} evtchn;
Does that make sense to you?
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Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-20 20:15 [PATCH RFC 00/39] x86/KVM: Xen HVM guest support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 01/39] KVM: x86: fix Xen hypercall page msr handling Joao Martins
2019-02-22 1:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-02-22 11:47 ` Joao Martins
2019-02-22 12:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 10:39 ` David Woodhouse
2020-11-30 11:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 11:27 ` David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 02/39] KVM: x86/xen: intercept xen hypercalls if enabled Joao Martins
2019-02-21 18:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-02-21 20:56 ` Joao Martins
2019-02-22 0:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-02-22 12:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 9:48 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-01 11:19 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 11:17 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 12:12 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 5:19 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-02 8:03 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 18:20 ` Ankur Arora
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 03/39] KVM: x86/xen: register shared_info page Joao Martins
2020-12-01 13:07 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 0:40 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-02 1:26 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 5:17 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-02 10:50 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 10:44 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 12:20 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 20:32 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-03 10:16 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-04 17:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-12-02 20:33 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-12 12:07 ` David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 04/39] KVM: x86/xen: setup pvclock updates Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 05/39] KVM: x86/xen: update wallclock region Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 06/39] KVM: x86/xen: register vcpu info Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 07/39] KVM: x86/xen: register vcpu time info region Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 08/39] KVM: x86/xen: register steal clock Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 09/39] KVM: x86: declare Xen HVM guest capability Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 10/39] KVM: x86/xen: support upcall vector Joao Martins
2020-12-02 11:17 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 13:12 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 16:47 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 18:34 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 19:02 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 20:12 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 20:37 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-03 1:08 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-08 16:08 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-09 6:35 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-09 10:27 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-09 10:51 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 11:39 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-09 13:26 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 15:41 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-09 16:12 ` Joao Martins
2021-01-01 14:33 ` David Woodhouse
2021-01-05 12:11 ` Joao Martins
2021-01-05 13:23 ` David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 11/39] KVM: x86/xen: evtchn signaling via eventfd Joao Martins
2020-11-30 9:41 ` David Woodhouse
2020-11-30 12:17 ` Joao Martins
2020-11-30 12:55 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2020-11-30 15:08 ` Joao Martins
2020-11-30 16:48 ` David Woodhouse
2020-11-30 17:15 ` Joao Martins
2020-11-30 18:01 ` David Woodhouse
2020-11-30 18:41 ` Joao Martins
2020-11-30 19:04 ` David Woodhouse
2020-11-30 19:25 ` Joao Martins
2021-11-23 13:15 ` David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 12/39] KVM: x86/xen: store virq when assigning evtchn Joao Martins
[not found] ` <b750291466f3c89e0a393e48079c087704b217a5.camel@amazon.co.uk>
2022-02-10 12:17 ` Joao Martins
2022-02-10 15:23 ` [EXTERNAL] " David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 13/39] KVM: x86/xen: handle PV timers oneshot mode Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 14/39] KVM: x86/xen: handle PV IPI vcpu yield Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 15/39] KVM: x86/xen: handle PV spinlocks slowpath Joao Martins
2022-02-08 12:36 ` David Woodhouse
2022-02-10 12:17 ` Joao Martins
2022-02-10 14:11 ` David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 16/39] KVM: x86: declare Xen HVM evtchn offload capability Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 17/39] x86/xen: export vcpu_info and shared_info Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 18/39] x86/xen: make hypercall_page generic Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 19/39] xen/xenbus: xenbus uninit support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 20/39] xen-blkback: module_exit support Joao Martins
2019-02-25 18:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2019-02-26 11:20 ` Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 21/39] KVM: x86/xen: domid allocation Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 22/39] KVM: x86/xen: grant table init Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 23/39] KVM: x86/xen: grant table grow support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 24/39] KVM: x86/xen: backend hypercall support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 25/39] KVM: x86/xen: grant map support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 26/39] KVM: x86/xen: grant unmap support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 27/39] KVM: x86/xen: grant copy support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 28/39] KVM: x86/xen: interdomain evtchn support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 29/39] KVM: x86/xen: evtchn unmask support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 30/39] KVM: x86/xen: add additional evtchn ops Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 31/39] xen-shim: introduce shim domain driver Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 32/39] xen/balloon: xen_shim_domain() support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 33/39] xen/grant-table: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 34/39] xen/gntdev: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 35/39] xen/xenbus: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 36/39] drivers/xen: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 37/39] xen-netback: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 38/39] xen-blkback: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 39/39] KVM: x86: declare Xen HVM Dom0 capability Joao Martins
2019-02-20 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 00/39] x86/KVM: Xen HVM guest support Paolo Bonzini
2019-02-21 0:29 ` Ankur Arora
2019-02-21 11:45 ` Joao Martins
2019-02-22 16:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-03-12 17:14 ` Joao Martins
2019-04-08 6:44 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-08 10:36 ` Joao Martins
2019-04-08 10:42 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-08 17:31 ` Joao Martins
2019-04-09 0:35 ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-04-10 5:50 ` [Xen-devel] " Ankur Arora
2019-04-10 20:45 ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-04-09 5:04 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-10 6:55 ` Ankur Arora
2019-04-10 7:14 ` Juergen Gross
2019-02-20 23:39 ` [Xen-devel] " Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
2019-02-21 0:31 ` Ankur Arora
2019-02-21 7:57 ` Juergen Gross
2019-02-21 12:00 ` Joao Martins
2019-02-21 11:55 ` Joao Martins
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