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From: <Alex_Gagniuc@Dellteam.com>
To: <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: <oohall@gmail.com>, <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	<keith.busch@intel.com>, <mr.nuke.me@gmail.com>,
	<linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>, <Austin.Bolen@dell.com>,
	<Shyam.Iyer@dell.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<jonathan.derrick@intel.com>, <lukas@wunner.de>,
	<ruscur@russell.cc>, <sbobroff@linux.ibm.com>,
	<linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] PCI/MSI: Don't touch MSI bits when the PCI device is disconnected
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:39:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19136f44cd5c45e79bbef7e78a6bf332@ausx13mps321.AMER.DELL.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20181113050240.GA182139@google.com

On 11/12/2018 11:02 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> 
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
> Please report any suspicious attachments, links, or requests for sensitive information.
> 
> 
> [+cc Jon, for related VMD firmware-first error enable issue]
> 
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 08:05:41PM +0000, Alex_Gagniuc@Dellteam.com wrote:
>> On 11/11/2018 11:50 PM, Oliver O'Halloran wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 23:06 +0000, Alex_Gagniuc@Dellteam.com wrote:
> 
>>>> But it's not the firmware that crashes. It's linux as a result of a
>>>> fatal error message from the firmware. And we can't fix that because FFS
>>>> handling requires that the system reboots [1].
>>>
>>> Do we know the exact circumsances that result in firmware requesting a
>>> reboot? If it happen on any PCIe error I don't see what we can do to
>>> prevent that beyond masking UEs entirely (are we even allowed to do
>>> that on FFS systems?).
>>
>> Pull a drive out at an angle, push two drives in at the same time, pull
>> out a drive really slow. If an error is even reported to the OS depends
>> on PD state, and proprietary mechanisms and logic in the HW and FW. OS
>> is not supposed to mask errors (touch AER bits) on FFS.
> 
> PD?

Presence Detect

> Do you think Linux observes the rule about not touching AER bits on
> FFS?  I'm not sure it does.  I'm not even sure what section of the
> spec is relevant.

I haven't found any place where linux breaks this rule. I'm very 
confident that, unless otherwise instructed, we follow this rule.

> The whole issue of firmware-first, the mechanism by which firmware
> gets control, the System Error enables in Root Port Root Control
> registers, etc., is very murky to me.  Jon has a sort of similar issue
> with VMD where he needs to leave System Errors enabled instead of
> disabling them as we currently do.

Well, OS gets control via _OSC method, and based on that it should 
touch/not touch the AER bits. The bits that get set/cleared come from 
_HPX method, and there's a more about the FFS described in ACPI spec. It 
seems that if platform, wants to enable VMD, it should pass the correct 
bits via _HPX. I'm curious to know in what new twisted way FFS doesn't 
work as intended.

Alex

> Bjorn
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20181029210651.GB13681@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-13 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-18 22:15 [PATCH v2] PCI/MSI: Don't touch MSI bits when the PCI device is disconnected Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-11-06  0:32 ` Alex G.
2018-11-07 17:04   ` Derrick, Jonathan
2018-11-07 23:42 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-11-08 20:09   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-11-08 21:49     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-08 22:01     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-08 22:32       ` Keith Busch
2018-11-08 22:42         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-08 22:49           ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-08 22:51             ` Greg KH
2018-11-08 23:06               ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-12  5:49                 ` Oliver O'Halloran
2018-11-12 20:05                   ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-13  5:02                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-11-13 22:39                       ` Alex_Gagniuc [this message]
2018-11-13 22:52                         ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14  0:31                           ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-14  5:59                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-11-14 19:22                           ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-14 19:41                             ` Derrick, Jonathan
2018-11-14 20:23                             ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14 20:52                               ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-14 20:58                                 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-15  6:24                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-11-16  0:19                               ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-08 23:03           ` Keith Busch
2018-11-09  7:29       ` Lukas Wunner
2018-11-09 11:32         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-09 16:36           ` Keith Busch
2018-11-08 22:20     ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-09  7:11     ` Lukas Wunner
2018-11-12  5:48       ` Oliver O'Halloran
2018-12-27 19:28     ` Alex_Gagniuc

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