From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759900AbdKPP1I (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:27:08 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-107.mimecast.com ([63.128.21.107]:33188 "EHLO us-smtp-delivery-107.mimecast.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759056AbdKPP1A (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:27:00 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 95698 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:27:00 EST X-MC-Unique: 7VXtLeHAOgSFnGeM8gOC4g-1 Subject: Re: [RFC] Improving udelay/ndelay on platforms where that is possible To: Russell King - ARM Linux CC: Linus Torvalds , Alan Cox , LKML , Linux ARM , Steven Rostedt , Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , Peter Zijlstra , John Stultz , Douglas Anderson , Nicolas Pitre , Mark Rutland , Will Deacon , Jonathan Austin , Arnd Bergmann , Kevin Hilman , Michael Turquette , Stephen Boyd , Boris Brezillon , Thibaud Cornic , Mason References: <20171101175325.2557ce85@alans-desktop> <4b707ce0-6067-ab36-e167-1acf348d26bf@free.fr> <11393e07-b042-180c-3bcd-484bf51eada6@sigmadesigns.com> <20171115131351.GE31757@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> From: Marc Gonzalez Message-ID: <1fa81694-7bd2-564b-e5b9-ae53b9ea6620@sigmadesigns.com> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:26:51 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171115131351.GE31757@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [172.27.0.114] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 15/11/2017 14:13, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > udelay() needs to offer a consistent interface so that drivers know > what to expect no matter what the implementation is. Making one > implementation conform to your ideas while leaving the other > implementations with other expectations is a recipe for bugs. > > If you really want to do this, fix the loops_per_jiffy implementation > as well so that the consistency is maintained. Hello Russell, It seems to me that, when using DFS, there's a serious issue with loop-based delays. (IIRC, it was you who pointed this out a few years ago.) If I'm reading arch/arm/kernel/smp.c correctly, loops_per_jiffy is scaled when the frequency changes. But arch/arm/lib/delay-loop.S starts by loading the current value of loops_per_jiffy, computes the number of times to loop, and then loops. If the frequency increases when the core is in __loop_delay, the delay will be much shorter than requested. Is this a correct assessment of the situation? (BTW, does arch/arm/lib/delay-loop.S load the per_cpu loops_per_jiffy or the system-wide variable?) Should loop-based delays be disabled when CPUFREQ is enabled? Regards.