From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:30:37 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:30:18 -0500 Received: from zeus.kernel.org ([209.10.41.242]:35039 "EHLO zeus.kernel.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:30:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:26:03 +0000 From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" , Linus Torvalds , Alan Cox , Manfred Spraul , Steve Lord , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kiobuf-io-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Ben LaHaise , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait Message-ID: <20010206182603.J1167@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20010205205429.V1167@redhat.com> <20010206000704.F1167@redhat.com> <20010206180058.A15974@caldera.de> <20010206170506.H1167@redhat.com> <20010206182258.A17923@caldera.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010206182258.A17923@caldera.de>; from hch@ns.caldera.de on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 06:22:58PM +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi, On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 06:22:58PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 05:05:06PM +0000, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > > The whole point of the post was that it is merging, not splitting, > > which is troublesome. How are you going to merge requests without > > having chains of scatter-gather entities each with their own > > completion callbacks? > > The object passed down to the low-level driver just needs to ne able > to contain multiple end-io callbacks. The decision what to call when > some of the scatter-gather entities fail is of course not so easy to > handle and needs further discussion. Umm, and if you want the separate higher-level IOs to be told which IOs succeeded and which ones failed on error, you need to associate each of the multiple completion callbacks with its particular scatter-gather fragment or fragments. So you end up with the same sort of kiobuf/kiovec concept where you have chains of sg chunks, each chunk with its own completion information. This is *precisely* what I've been trying to get people to address. Forget whether the individual sg fragments are based on pages or not: if you want to have IO merging and accurate completion callbacks, you need not just one sg list but multiple lists each with a separate callback header. Abandon the merging of sg-list requests (by moving that functionality into the higher-level layers) and that problem disappears: flat sg-lists will then work quite happily at the request layer. Cheers, Stephen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/