From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
Ben LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Steve Lord <lord@sgi.com>,
Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kiobuf-io-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: select() returning busy for regular files [was Re: [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait]
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 00:17:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010208001735.C189@bug.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0102061900060.23574-100000@freak.distro.conectiva> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10102061516570.1972-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10102061516570.1972-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from Linus Torvalds on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 03:26:44PM -0800
Hi!
> > Its arguing against making a smart application block on the disk while its
> > able to use the CPU for other work.
>
> There are currently no other alternatives in user space. You'd have to
> create whole new interfaces for aio_read/write, and ways for the kernel to
> inform user space that "now you can re-try submitting your IO".
Why is current select() interface not good enough?
Defining that select may say regular file is not ready should be
enough. Okay, maybe you'd want new fcntl() flag saying "I _really_
want this regular file to be non-blocking". No need for new
interfaces.
Pavel
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Thread overview: 184+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-02-01 14:44 [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait /notify + callback chains bsuparna
2001-02-01 15:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 16:08 ` Steve Lord
2001-02-01 16:49 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-01 17:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 17:34 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-01 17:49 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-01 17:09 ` Chaitanya Tumuluri
2001-02-01 20:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 20:56 ` Steve Lord
2001-02-01 20:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 21:17 ` Steve Lord
2001-02-01 21:44 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-01 22:07 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-02 12:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-05 12:19 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-05 21:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-05 22:58 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-05 23:06 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-05 23:16 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-06 0:19 ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-03 20:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-05 11:03 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-05 12:00 ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-05 15:03 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-05 15:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-05 17:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-05 17:29 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-05 18:49 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-05 19:04 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-05 19:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-05 19:16 ` [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait Alan Cox
2001-02-05 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-05 20:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-05 21:08 ` David Lang
2001-02-05 21:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-06 0:07 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-06 17:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-06 17:05 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-06 17:14 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-06 17:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-06 18:26 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-06 17:37 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-06 18:00 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-06 18:09 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-06 19:35 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-06 18:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-08 11:21 ` Andi Kleen
2001-02-08 14:11 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-02-08 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-06 18:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-06 18:25 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-06 18:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-06 18:54 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-06 18:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-06 19:11 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-06 19:32 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-06 19:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-06 19:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-06 19:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-06 19:49 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-06 19:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-06 20:07 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-06 20:25 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-06 20:41 ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-06 20:50 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-06 21:26 ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-06 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-06 20:16 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-02-06 22:09 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-06 22:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-06 21:13 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-02-06 23:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-07 23:17 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2001-02-08 13:57 ` select() returning busy for regular files [was Re: [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait] Ben LaHaise
2001-02-08 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-08 15:06 ` [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait Ben LaHaise
2001-02-08 13:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-02-08 13:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-02-07 23:15 ` Pavel Machek
2001-02-08 13:22 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-08 12:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-02-08 15:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-02-08 14:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-02-08 16:11 ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-02-08 14:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-02-08 16:57 ` Rik van Riel
2001-02-08 17:13 ` James Sutherland
2001-02-08 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-09 12:17 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-02-08 15:55 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-08 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-08 14:52 ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-02-08 19:50 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-11 21:30 ` Pavel Machek
2001-02-06 21:57 ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-06 22:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-06 22:26 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-02-06 20:49 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-07 0:21 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-07 0:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-07 0:36 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-07 0:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-07 1:49 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-07 2:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-07 14:52 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-07 19:12 ` Richard Gooch
2001-02-07 20:03 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-07 1:51 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-02-07 1:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-07 1:59 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-02-07 1:02 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-07 1:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-07 1:39 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-07 1:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-07 1:55 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-07 9:10 ` David Howells
2001-02-07 12:16 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-07 2:00 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-02-07 1:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-07 1:09 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-07 1:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-07 1:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-07 2:07 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-02-07 1:08 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-07 2:08 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-02-07 1:42 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-02-07 0:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-07 0:35 ` Jens Axboe
2001-02-07 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-07 1:27 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-07 1:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-12 10:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-02-06 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-06 20:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-06 20:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-06 19:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-02-06 20:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-06 21:20 ` Steve Lord
2001-02-07 18:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-06 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-07 18:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-07 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-07 18:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-08 0:34 ` Neil Brown
2001-02-06 19:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-06 20:16 ` Ben LaHaise
2001-02-06 20:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-06 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-06 0:31 ` Roman Zippel
2001-02-06 1:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-06 9:22 ` Roman Zippel
2001-02-06 9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-02-06 1:08 ` David S. Miller
2001-02-05 22:09 ` [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait /notify + callback chains Ingo Molnar
2001-02-05 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-02-05 17:27 ` [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait Alan Cox
2001-02-05 16:36 ` [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait /notify + callback chains Linus Torvalds
2001-02-05 19:08 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-01 17:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 17:58 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-01 18:32 ` Rik van Riel
2001-02-01 18:59 ` yodaiken
2001-02-01 19:33 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-01 18:51 ` bcrl
2001-02-01 16:16 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-01 17:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 17:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 17:41 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-01 18:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 18:25 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-01 18:39 ` Rik van Riel
2001-02-01 18:46 ` [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait Alan Cox
2001-02-01 18:48 ` [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait /notify + callback chains Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 18:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-01 19:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 19:32 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-01 20:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 21:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-02 11:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-02 14:04 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-02-02 4:18 ` bcrl
2001-02-02 12:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-02-01 20:04 ` Chaitanya Tumuluri
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