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From: Ingo Oeser <ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>, Adam Sampson <azz@gnu.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VM balancing problems under 2.4.2-ac1
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:26:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010304182601.D27675@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0102232120531.8568-100000@localhost.localdomain> <Pine.NEB.4.33.0103030053070.14582-100000@io.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0103030053070.14582-100000@io.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de>; from bunk@fs.tum.de on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:03:26AM +0100

On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:03:26AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > If anybody as a good idea to make this code auto-balancing,
> > please let me know.
> 
> I have no idea for auto-balancing but another idea: It's one possibility
> to let the user choose when doing "make *config" what he wants:
> 
> - A VM optimized for servers that swaps out applications in favor of
>   caching.
> or
> - A VM optimized for workstations that won't swap out applications in
>   favor of caching.

I thought about the same thing sometimes (but for other troughput
vs. latency decisions, too).

But I realized, that my very own workstation is also a server,
since it runs an httpd, mysqld, smbd, ftpd etc.

And somtimes the servers become very busy in our LAN[1].

IF we want that tuning, we should have it as a sysctl. Most of it
is already possible with /proc/sys/vm/*, but balancing decisions
are still missing.

And even for servers we need to reduce caching sometimes. Think
of an httpd serving _very_ dynamic content. Or any other
application (e.g. DMBS), that doesn't rely on file system
caching.

A anonymous/file-backed[2] ratio would be VERY handy ;-)

But maybe this will be implemented one day along the lines of QoS
in the VM...

Regards

Ingo Oeser

[1] >1500 possible clients for these servers.
[2] Not counting swaps as file backed. We have a special inode
   for the swapper anyway, right?
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-03-04 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-23 20:00 VM balancing problems under 2.4.2-ac1 Adam Sampson
2001-02-24  2:22 ` Rik van Riel
2001-02-24 10:33   ` Joseph Bueno
2001-02-24 14:37     ` Rik van Riel
2001-02-26 16:33   ` Mike Galbraith
2001-03-03  0:03   ` Adrian Bunk
2001-03-04 17:26     ` Ingo Oeser [this message]
2001-03-05  7:05       ` Mike Galbraith

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