From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:34:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:34:23 -0400 Received: from sal.qcc.sk.ca ([198.169.27.3]:271 "HELO sal.qcc.sk.ca") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:34:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:34:14 -0600 From: Charles Cazabon To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up Message-ID: <20010518093414.A21164@qcc.sk.ca> In-Reply-To: <20010518034307.A10784@thyrsus.com> <20010518105353.A13684@thyrsus.com> <3B053B9B.23286E6C@redhat.com> <20010518112625.A14309@thyrsus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010518112625.A14309@thyrsus.com>; from esr@thyrsus.com on Fri, May 18, 2001 at 11:26:25AM -0400 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Arjan van de Ven : > > Aunt Tillie doesn't even know what a kernel is, nor does she want > > to. I think it's fair to assume that people who configure and > > compile their own kernel (as opposed to using the distribution > > supplied ones) know what they are doing. > > I'd like to break these assumptions. Or at the very least see how far > they can be bent. I know this sounds crazy to a lot of hackers, but > I think there's a certain amount of unhelpful elitism and self-puffery > in the "kernels are hard to configure and they *should* be hard to > configure* attitude. Let's give Aunt Tillie a chance to surprise us. Whether this is desirable or not is debatable. The big question is: why on earth would Aunt Tillie _want_ to compile a kernel at all, let alone re-configure one? If she's using Linux, she's installing her distribution's pre-compiled kernel, and has no need for anything else. Simplifying the configuration interface so that "anyone" can use it seems like a waste of effort. If there's an interested novice out there who wants to learn how to configure a kernel, they'll be sufficiently interested to invest an hour or two in learning how the whole process works. Make it as simple as it needs to be, and no simpler. Charles -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Cazabon GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. -----------------------------------------------------------------------