From: David Luyer <david_luyer@pacific.net.au> To: Daniel <ddickman@nyc.rr.com>, Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> Subject: Re: obsolete code must die Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:41:15 +1000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <200106140141.f5E1fFL3012794@typhaon.pacific.net.au> (raw) In-Reply-To: Message from Alan Olsen <alan@clueserver.org> of "Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:22:38 PDT." <Pine.LNX.4.10.10106131903190.16254-100000@clueserver.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10106131903190.16254-100000@clueserver.org> Obsolete code must die. Hardware support must live on. > > ISA, MCA, EISA device drivers > > If support for the buses is gone, there's no point in supporting devices for > > these buses. > > I am not certain if tis is a good idea, for the reason given above. (Not > certain about MCA and EISA though.) MCA is common for PS/2's, which are still around. > > MFM/RLL/XT/ESDI hard drive support > > Does anyone still *have* an RLL drive that works? At the very least get rid > > of the old driver (eg CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_ONLY, CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE, > > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD, CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PS2) > > I am not certain how much this stuff is still used outside the US. The XT > driver still being around does surprise me though. (Will that even *work* > on modern hardware? I didn't think you could get that card to work on a > 386.) Could never get my OMTI 8627 ESDI controller to work under Linux when I tried. It works under DOS/Win, Xenix and VSTa though. These controllers were pseudo-common early 386 machines (before the 386sx and 386dx) built for Xenix. Surprisingly the old NEC ESDI drive still spins up, when most of the 1998 or 1999 Seagates/IBM drives are dead or dying and we've had close to an entire A1000 Sun disk unit fail to spin up -- the 'top-end' disks of today rarely seem to last more than 2-3 years (in that if you turn them off after 2-3 years of continual service and turn them back on 1/2 hr later, half of the drives which haven't spat out a drive head in the interim years will fail to spin up). Even old Eagle drives from 1988 still spin up... given you have to flick the starter switch to spin them up half a dozen times, but they still work... seems they don't make disk drives like they used to. David. -- David Luyer Phone: +61 3 9674 7525 Engineering Projects Manager P A C I F I C Fax: +61 3 9699 8693 Pacific Internet (Australia) I N T E R N E T Mobile: +61 4 1111 2983 http://www.pacific.net.au/ NASDAQ: PCNTF
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-06-14 1:41 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106140018140.14934-100000@imladris.rielhome .conectiva> 2001-06-14 0:44 ` Daniel 2001-06-14 0:54 ` Rik van Riel 2001-06-14 0:56 ` Jaswinder Singh 2001-06-14 1:00 ` Jeff Garzik [not found] ` <20010613204729.A18297@pimlott.ne.mediaone.net> 2001-06-14 1:05 ` Daniel Dickman 2001-06-14 1:09 ` Rik van Riel 2001-06-14 1:20 ` Gary E. Miller 2001-06-14 1:08 ` Colonel 2001-06-13 22:23 ` Rafael Diniz 2001-06-15 19:45 ` Eric Hancock 2001-06-14 19:00 ` Mike A. Harris 2001-06-14 1:11 ` John Chris Wren 2001-06-14 1:13 ` Claudio Martins 2001-06-14 1:23 ` Justin Guyett 2001-06-14 1:51 ` Mohammad A. Haque 2001-06-14 1:55 ` Horst von Brand 2001-06-14 3:41 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo 2001-06-14 1:58 ` D. Stimits 2001-06-14 2:22 ` Alan Olsen 2001-06-14 1:24 ` Robert Love 2001-06-14 1:32 ` Colonel 2001-06-14 1:45 ` Rainer Mager 2001-06-14 2:00 ` Download process for a "split kernel" (was: obsolete code must die) David Luyer 2001-06-14 2:30 ` Jaswinder Singh 2001-06-14 7:56 ` Daniel Phillips 2001-06-14 8:34 ` Alexander Viro 2001-06-14 16:25 ` Daniel Phillips 2001-06-14 17:21 ` Richard Gooch 2001-06-14 12:07 ` Horst von Brand 2001-06-14 12:14 ` David Luyer 2001-06-14 12:18 ` Rob Landley 2001-06-14 7:56 ` obsolete code must die Alan Cox 2001-06-14 9:06 ` Ghozlane Toumi 2001-06-14 9:24 ` James Sutherland 2001-06-14 14:45 ` Michael Bacarella 2001-06-15 3:58 ` Michael Peddemors 2001-06-15 4:09 ` Joel Jaeggli 2001-06-15 11:51 ` Rogier Wolff 2001-06-14 1:41 ` David Luyer [this message] 2001-06-14 2:37 ` Tom Vier 2001-06-14 8:35 ` Bohdan Vlasyuk 2001-06-14 10:25 ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz 2001-06-14 2:31 ` James Stevenson 2001-06-14 3:24 ` Rik van Riel 2001-06-14 3:48 ` Stephen Satchell 2001-06-14 4:26 ` Rik van Riel 2001-06-14 6:31 ` Russell King 2001-06-14 6:54 ` Daniel Dickman 2001-06-14 7:12 ` L. K. 2001-06-14 8:44 ` Luigi Genoni 2001-06-14 9:55 ` Thomas Pornin 2001-06-14 15:15 ` Brad Johnson 2001-06-14 18:57 ` Mike A. Harris 2001-06-15 3:48 ` Michael Peddemors 2001-06-15 14:21 ` Horst von Brand 2001-06-14 10:22 Heusden, Folkert van 2001-06-14 13:05 ` Nils Holland 2001-06-14 14:01 Jesse Pollard 2001-06-14 17:21 ` richard
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