From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:17:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:17:02 -0400 Received: from amadeus.resilience.com ([209.245.157.29]:24417 "HELO jmcmullan") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:16:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:01:14 -0400 From: Jason McMullan To: Rik van Riel Cc: Jason McMullan , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: What are the VM motivations?? Message-ID: <20010624140114.A10745@jmcmullan.resilience.com> In-Reply-To: <20010621190103.A888@jmcmullan.resilience.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from riel@conectiva.com.br on Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 12:04:43PM -0300 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 12:04:43PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: > OK. I challenge you to come up with: > > 1) the set of inputs for the neural network > 2) the set of outputs > 3) the goal for training the thing > > I'm pretty fed up with people who want to "change the VM" > but never give any details of their ideas. Uhh. That's not what I was ranting about. What I was ranting about is that we have never 'put to paper' the requirements ('motiviations') for a good VM, nor have we looked at said nonexistent list and figured out what instrumentation would be needed. I don't now that much about VM, but I do know a bunch of people each scratching their own itch, and most of them not looking at the bigger picture. Linus, RvR, etc. excepted. Mostly. ;^) The whole 'neural network' bit was mostly troll. Sorry, I got a little carried away at that point. -- Jason McMullan, Senior Linux Consultant Linuxcare, Inc. 412.432.6457 tel, 412.656.3519 cell jmcmullan@linuxcare.com, http://www.linuxcare.com/ Linuxcare. Putting open source to work.