From: Jesse Pollard <pollard@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
To: jroland@roland.net, <jesse@cats-chateau.net>, <kmw@rowsw.com>,
"J Sloan" <jjs@mirai.cx>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 10:09:44 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200107021509.KAA52993@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> (raw)
"Jim Roland" <jroland@roland.net>:
> From: "Jesse Pollard" <jesse@cats-chateau.net>
> To: <kmw@rowsw.com>; "Kurt Maxwell Weber" <kmw@rowsw.com>; "J Sloan"
> <jjs@mirai.cx>
> Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
>
>
> [snip]
> > >In that case, I have the following options:
> > >1) Start my own ISP
> >
> > Only if the upstream provider doesn't require you to use windows.
> >
> > >2) Use Windows XP
> > >3) Not use Windows XP and not be able to use my current ISP
> > >4) Go to a different ISP
> >
> > You may not be able to find another. It took me a year. I gave up. I was
> > fortunate that Verio doesn't care what you have... though if you use
> > the dialup or basic dsl, MS is it, or no real support.
> >
> > >I'll just have to decide which I value more. As long as I won't be
> killed
> > >for using a different OS, I still have a choice.
> >
> > No, but you might be forced out of a job.
>
> In one of the large metro areas in which I live, there are a LOT of ISPs
> that do not require you to use Windows, but will not support you beyond the
> IP layer if you don't. Use linux, install PPP with MS-CHAPv2 (with or
> without MPPE) for your dialup connection and it works just fine on a
> Winblows-only ISP. DSL or Cable, just acquire your actual IP settings
> program a Linksys router/hub box and be done with it.
Better re-read the fine print on the "fair-use" statement. BOTH DSL and
Cable, or dialup (New Orleans at least) will disconnect you if you run ANY
unattended operation (if they determine it IS unattended). No daemon services.
No routing/NAT (unless they do it). No remote login. No mail. DHCP reconfig
between 4 and 8 hours (or whenever they choose to).
They will let you plug in, but will not provide any support (even TCP/IP is
not assured).
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jesse I Pollard, II
Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil
Any opinions expressed are solely my own.
next reply other threads:[~2001-07-02 15:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-07-02 15:09 Jesse Pollard [this message]
2001-07-02 17:09 ` Uncle Sam Wants YOU! William T Wilson
2001-07-02 17:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-02 17:56 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-02 18:36 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:35 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:31 ` Jim Roland
[not found] <fa.eu2vnbv.278lg4@ifi.uio.no>
2001-07-02 0:33 ` Ted Unangst
2001-07-02 2:56 ` Michael Rothwell
[not found] <20010701131254.A9116@tabris.domedata.com>
2001-07-01 17:41 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 18:11 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01 19:24 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:52 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-02 0:13 ` Dan Hollis
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-01 17:35 Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:01 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-01 20:25 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:29 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 0:56 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:59 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 20:30 ` Mike Harrold
2001-07-01 21:57 ` Tony Hoyle
[not found] ` <3B3FACEC.897D910A@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02 0:06 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:31 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 22:32 ` Marius Nita
2001-07-01 23:27 ` David Schwartz
2001-07-02 0:03 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:49 ` Jim Roland
[not found] ` <3B3FF9D7.9582B05B@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02 9:18 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 23:57 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02 0:39 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 1:00 ` Justin Guyett
2001-07-02 1:06 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 10:26 ` Luigi Genoni
2001-07-01 23:50 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:11 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02 0:36 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:45 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 5:40 ` Graham Murray
2001-07-02 9:19 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 2:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-07-02 3:06 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-02 5:37 ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-07-02 0:26 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 13:53 ` Android
2001-07-01 1:36 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 10:12 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 16:02 ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 16:06 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
[not found] ` <3B3F707C.9BF8BCF7@mirai.cx>
2001-07-01 19:03 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 19:24 ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-07-01 20:53 ` David Schwartz
2001-07-01 20:03 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 20:14 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 23:53 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 1:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 1:19 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 19:37 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-07-02 1:21 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 1:48 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-07-06 19:01 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 18:59 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 19:34 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-07-02 0:20 ` Jim Roland
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