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From: Jesse Pollard <pollard@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
To: jroland@roland.net, <jesse@cats-chateau.net>, <kmw@rowsw.com>,
	"J Sloan" <jjs@mirai.cx>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 10:09:44 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200107021509.KAA52993@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> (raw)

"Jim Roland" <jroland@roland.net>:
> From: "Jesse Pollard" <jesse@cats-chateau.net>
> To: <kmw@rowsw.com>; "Kurt Maxwell Weber" <kmw@rowsw.com>; "J Sloan"
> <jjs@mirai.cx>
> Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
> 
> 
> [snip]
> > >In that case, I have the following options:
> > >1) Start my own ISP
> >
> > Only if the upstream provider doesn't require you to use windows.
> >
> > >2) Use Windows XP
> > >3) Not use Windows XP and not be able to use my current ISP
> > >4) Go to a different ISP
> >
> > You may not be able to find another. It took me a year. I gave up. I was
> > fortunate that Verio doesn't care what you have... though if you use
> > the dialup or basic dsl, MS is it, or no real support.
> >
> > >I'll just have to decide which I value more.  As long as I won't be
> killed
> > >for using a different OS, I still have a choice.
> >
> > No, but you might be forced out of a job.
> 
> In one of the large metro areas in which I live, there are a LOT of ISPs
> that do not require you to use Windows, but will not support you beyond the
> IP layer if you don't.  Use linux, install PPP with MS-CHAPv2 (with or
> without MPPE) for your dialup connection and it works just fine on a
> Winblows-only ISP.  DSL or Cable, just acquire your actual IP settings
> program a Linksys router/hub box and be done with it.

Better re-read the fine print on the "fair-use" statement. BOTH DSL and
Cable, or dialup (New Orleans at least) will disconnect you if you run ANY
unattended operation (if they determine it IS unattended). No daemon services.
No routing/NAT (unless they do it). No remote login. No mail. DHCP reconfig
between 4 and 8 hours (or whenever they choose to).

They will let you plug in, but will not provide any support (even TCP/IP is
not assured).

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jesse I Pollard, II
Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil

Any opinions expressed are solely my own.

             reply	other threads:[~2001-07-02 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-02 15:09 Jesse Pollard [this message]
2001-07-02 17:09 ` Uncle Sam Wants YOU! William T Wilson
2001-07-02 17:49   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-02 17:56     ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-02 18:36       ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:35     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:31 ` Jim Roland
     [not found] <fa.eu2vnbv.278lg4@ifi.uio.no>
2001-07-02  0:33 ` Ted Unangst
2001-07-02  2:56   ` Michael Rothwell
     [not found] <20010701131254.A9116@tabris.domedata.com>
2001-07-01 17:41 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 18:11   ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01 19:24     ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:52     ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-02  0:13   ` Dan Hollis
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-01 17:35 Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:01 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-01 20:25   ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:29     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  0:56       ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:59         ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 20:30   ` Mike Harrold
2001-07-01 21:57   ` Tony Hoyle
     [not found]     ` <3B3FACEC.897D910A@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02  0:06       ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:31     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 22:32   ` Marius Nita
2001-07-01 23:27     ` David Schwartz
2001-07-02  0:03       ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:49         ` Jim Roland
     [not found]           ` <3B3FF9D7.9582B05B@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02  9:18             ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 23:57     ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02  0:39     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  1:00     ` Justin Guyett
2001-07-02  1:06       ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 10:26       ` Luigi Genoni
2001-07-01 23:50   ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:11     ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02  0:36       ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:45       ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  5:40         ` Graham Murray
2001-07-02  9:19           ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  2:11     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-07-02  3:06       ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-02  5:37       ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-07-02  0:26 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 13:53 ` Android
2001-07-01  1:36 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 10:12 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 16:02   ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 16:06     ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
     [not found]       ` <3B3F707C.9BF8BCF7@mirai.cx>
2001-07-01 19:03         ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 19:24           ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-07-01 20:53             ` David Schwartz
2001-07-01 20:03           ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 20:14             ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 23:53               ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  1:09                 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02  1:19                   ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 19:37                     ` James A. Sutherland
2001-07-02  1:21                   ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02  1:48                   ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-07-06 19:01                   ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 18:59                 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 19:34                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-07-02  0:20             ` Jim Roland

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