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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@cistron-office.nl>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: O_DIRECT! or O_DIRECT?
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 19:34:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010704193402.A6403@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15HWsV-0000lM-00@f12.port.ru> <20010704185230.F28793@redhat.com> <9hvn61$rkb$1@ncc1701.cistron.net>
In-Reply-To: <9hvn61$rkb$1@ncc1701.cistron.net>; from miquels@cistron-office.nl on Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 06:27:13PM +0000

Hi,

On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 06:27:13PM +0000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> In article <20010704185230.F28793@redhat.com>,
> Stephen C. Tweedie <sct@redhat.com> wrote:
> >For these reasons, buffered IO is often faster than O_DIRECT for pure
> >sequential access.  The downside it its greater CPU cost and the fact
> >that it pollutes the cache (which, in turn, causes even _more_ CPU
> >overhead when the VM is forced to start reclaiming old cache data to
> >make room for new blocks.)
> 
> Any chance of something like O_SEQUENTIAL (like madvise(MADV_SEQUENTIAL))

What for?  The kernel already optimises readahead and writebehind for
sequential files.

If you want to provide specific extra hints to the kernel, then things
like O_UNCACHE might be more appropriate to instruct the kernel to
explicitly remove the cached page after IO completes (to avoid the VM
overhead of maintaining useless cache).  That would provide a definite
improvement over normal IO for large multimedia-style files or for
huge copies.  But what part of the normal handling of sequential files
would O_SEQUENTIAL change?  Good handling of sequential files should
be the default, not an explicitly-requested feature.

Cheers, 
 Stephen

  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-04 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-03 20:34 O_DIRECT! or O_DIRECT? Samium Gromoff
2001-07-03 20:38 ` kernel
2001-07-03 21:12 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-07-04 17:52 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-07-04 18:27   ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-07-04 18:34     ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2001-07-04 20:23       ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-07-05 15:06         ` Stephen C. Tweedie

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