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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:09:24 +0200
From: Abraham vd Merwe <abraham@2d3d.co.za>
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Hi Eric!

> > Apparently Linus told Felix von Leitner (the author of dietlibc - a sma=
ll,
> > no nonsense glibc replacement C library) a while ago _not_ to include a=
ny
> > linux kernel headers in userland (i.e. the C library headers in this ca=
se).
> >=20
> > This imho is obviously wrong since there are definitely a need for incl=
uding
> > kernel headers on a linux platform.
>=20
> ???  Necessity no.  Are there practical benefits yes.
>=20
> The policy of the kernel developers in general is that if your apps
> includes kernel headers and it breaks, it is a kernel problem.
>=20
> As for ioctl it is a giant mess that needs to be taken out and shot.
>=20
> And yes there are places where even the mighty glibc is in the wrong.

Just acknowledging that it is a problem doesn't solve the problem though.
The question remains how you approach the kernel headers issue at the momen=
t?

My guess is the only way is by including the kernel headers for now and
change it one day when someone decides to clean up the mess.

--=20

Regards
 Abraham

Every absurdity has a champion who will defend it.

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