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From: Ed Tomlinson <tomlins@cam.org>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
Cc: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] using writepage to start io
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 07:39:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010807113944.D229E7B53@oscar.casa.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <755760000.997128720@tiny> <01080623182601.01864@starship> <20010807120234.D4036@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010807120234.D4036@redhat.com>

On August 7, 2001 07:02 am, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 11:18:26PM +0200, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 06, 2001 09:45:12 PM +0200 Daniel Phillips
> > >
> > > Grin, we're talking in circles.  My point is that by having two
> > > threads, bdflush is allowed to skip over older buffers in favor of
> > > younger ones because somebody else is responsible for writing the
> > > older ones out.
> >
> > Yes, and you can't imagine an algorithm that could do that with *one*
> > thread?
>
> FWIW, we've seen big performance degradations in the past when testing
> different ext3 checkpointing modes.  You can't reuse a disk block in
> the journal without making sure that the data in it has been flushed
> to disk, so ext3 does regular checkpointing to flush journaled blocks
> out.  That can interact very badly with normal VM writeback if you're
> not careful: having two threads doing the same thing at the same time
> can just thrash the disk.
>
> Parallel sync() calls from multiple processes has shown up the same
> behaviour on ext2 in the past.  I'd definitely like to see at most one
> thread of writeback per disk to avoid that.

Be carefull here.  I have a system (solaris) at the office that has 96 drives 
on it.  Do we really want 96 writeback threads?  With 96 drives, suspect the
bus bandwidth would be the limiting factor.

Ed Tomlinson 

  reply	other threads:[~2001-08-07 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-05 18:34 [RFC] using writepage to start io Chris Mason
2001-08-05 22:38 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-05 23:32   ` Chris Mason
2001-08-06  5:39     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-06 13:24       ` Chris Mason
2001-08-06 16:13         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-06 16:51           ` Chris Mason
2001-08-06 19:45             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-06 20:12               ` Chris Mason
2001-08-06 21:18                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-07 11:02                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-08-07 11:39                     ` Ed Tomlinson [this message]
2001-08-07 18:36                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-07 12:07                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-08-07 12:02                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-08-07 13:29                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-07 13:31                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-07 15:52                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-07 14:23                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-08-07 15:51                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-08 14:49                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-08-06 15:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-08-07 15:19 Chris Mason
2001-07-28 16:01 Chris Mason
2001-07-28 16:18 ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-28 16:25   ` Chris Mason
2001-07-31 19:07 ` Chris Mason
2001-08-01  1:01   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-01  2:05     ` Chris Mason
2001-08-01 14:57   ` Daniel Phillips

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