From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:01:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:01:40 -0400 Received: from h24-64-71-161.cg.shawcable.net ([24.64.71.161]:58358 "EHLO webber.adilger.int") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:01:26 -0400 From: Andreas Dilger Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:00:49 -0600 To: Nicholas Knight Cc: Adrian Cox , root@chaos.analogic.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Encrypted Swap Message-ID: <20010817140049.G17372@turbolinux.com> Mail-Followup-To: Nicholas Knight , Adrian Cox , root@chaos.analogic.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <3B7D5603.8080805@humboldt.co.uk> <01081711510800.00814@c779218-a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01081711510800.00814@c779218-a> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Aug 17, 2001 11:51 -0700, Nicholas Knight wrote: > Now that we've established that SDRAM doesn't neccisarily get erased from > rebooting, does anyone know how long it takes for SDRAM to clear after > losing power? It seems to me that the fact that the RAM isn't neccisarily > wiped by the BIOS at boot is less important than wether or not shutting > down the system and having it shut down for 10 minutes causes the RAM to > be cleared so that any intruder/thief would be unable to get the > information neccisary to decrypt the swap... Hmm, it was my understanding that all PC BIOSes DO zero out memory, although this is not necessarily a requirement of the hardware. The reason I say this is because one of the features of the Linux BIOS project is to allow crashdump analysis after a reboot, by pulling the dump from the RAM after a reboot. You apparently are not able to do this with normal PC BIOSes because they clear the RAM after a reset. That said, I'm not sure what the requirements of different kinds of RAM chips are for initialization, so there may not be a REQUIREMENT to clear the memory, but rather it is part of the nebulous "PC spec". Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Dilger \ "If a man ate a pound of pasta and a pound of antipasto, \ would they cancel out, leaving him still hungry?" http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ -- Dogbert