From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:15:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:15:25 -0400 Received: from h24-64-71-161.cg.shawcable.net ([24.64.71.161]:35833 "EHLO webber.adilger.int") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:15:12 -0400 From: Andreas Dilger Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:14:19 -0600 To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Alexander Viro , Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.10-pre11 Message-ID: <20010918131419.A14526@turbolinux.com> Mail-Followup-To: Linus Torvalds , Alexander Viro , Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sep 18, 2001 11:27 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > I agree that the timing may leave something to be desired. But we had the > discussion about fixing pagecache-bdev consistency wrt the regular buffer > cache filesystem accesses a week or so ago, and the fact is that nobody > really seems to have started working on it - because everybody felt that > you have to get everything done at once. The real question is why can't we just open 2.5 and only fix the VM to start with? Leave the kernel at 2.4.10-pre10, and possibly use the -ac VM code (which has diverged from mainline), and leave people (Alan, Ben, Marcello, et. al.) who want to tinker with it in small increments and do the drastic stuff in 2.5. Make it clear that 2.5 is still ONLY for VM and other bug fixes at this point, and not all of the long-awaited 2.5 rework YET. If it turns out that the VM fixes are done quickly, then they can be back-ported to 2.4. If it takes longer than expected you can open 2.5 up to general development. With the right "management" it will be not much different than the current situation, except that people won't have fits about such huge changes going into 2.4. I think this is your subconcious telling you that you really wanted to start 2.5 a month ago. Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Dilger \ "If a man ate a pound of pasta and a pound of antipasto, \ would they cancel out, leaving him still hungry?" http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ -- Dogbert