From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:15:07 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:14:57 -0500 Received: from vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca ([136.159.55.21]:39100 "EHLO vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:14:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 00:14:41 -0700 Message-Id: <200111060714.fA67EfX20893@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> From: Richard Gooch To: Alexander Viro Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: more devfs fun (Piled Higher and Deeper) In-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <200111060635.fA66ZIH20196@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Alexander Viro writes: > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Richard Gooch wrote: > > > Yep, as I've long ago admitted, there are races in the old devfs > > code, which couldn't be fixed without proper locking. And that's why > > I've been wanting to add said locking for ages, and have been > > frustrated at interruptions which delayed that work. And I'm very > > happy to get the first cut of the new code released. > > BTW, new code still has both aforementioned races - detaching > entries from the tree doesn't help with that. Which "both"? You sent quite a few messages, listing more than two races. I'm still wading through the list. > > That said, try to understand (before getting emotional and launching > > off a tirade such as the one last week) that different people have > > different priorities, and mine was to provide functionality first, and > > worry about hostile attacks/exploits later. This is not unreasonable > > if you consider that the initial target machines for devfs were: > > - my personal boxes (which are not public machines) > > - big-iron machines sitting behind a firewall > > - small university group sitting behind a firewall (and I know where > > all the users live:-) > > That's nice, but that had stopped being the case as soon as you've > proposed devfs for inclusion into the tree... Marked CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL... Regards, Richard.... Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au Current: rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca