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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:18:15 +0100
From: Romain Lievin <roms@tilp.info>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
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Subject: Re: why the new config process is a *big* step backwards
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 11:09:19PM +0100, Roman Zippel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> >   at least in the old "make xconfig", i could bring up two
> > children dialogs at a time.  perhaps i want to examine/configure
> > both "Block devices" and "Filesystems" at the same time, since
> > there are some related features (loopback device support under
> > Block devices lets me mount filesystem images).  under the
> > new scheme, this is impossible (unless there's a trick or
> > feature i haven't found).
> 
> Have you found the full tree mode?
> I'm thinking about the option to open a submbenu in its own window, but
> it will not be the default. I really hate it when a program thinks it
> has to open a new window for everything.

Well, popup dialogs are very annoying...
The current system has enough windows for dislaying the important informations
(hierarchy, help, informations).

> 
> >   and that option window is just confusing.  given that we
> > already have +/- expand/collapse icons, and checkboxes for
> > selection, it just makes things messier to have these submenu
> > boxes with the internal triangle.  and once it takes you to
> > that submenu, is it really painfully obvious how you back up
> > one level?  (the arrow icon in the tool bar?)
> 
> Offering too many options at once is not good either, as then you have
> the choice that you must expand lots of submenus until you find, what
> you need or you have a huge list of options. The current window is a
> compromise, which doesn't show too much and already has everything
> expanded. If possible I would omit the +/- icons, but it's not possible
> without reimplementing the whole widget.

To my mind, the current configuration system provides enough options (ie views)
for most of the users without having a program too complex/big...
Moreover, I think that the Split & Tree views are very practictal.

The +/- icons (even if they are not available in the GTK+ version) allow you
to change an option without displaying the other columns.
It may be very useful if you have a small screen size. You don't have to scroll
the window...

> 
> bye, Roman
> 
> 
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Romain.
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