From: Mike Touloumtzis <miket@bluemug.com>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Alex Bligh - linux-kernel <linux-kernel@alex.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: How to check the kernel compile options ?
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:08:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020207210823.GH26826@bluemug.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3mjhc$qba$1@cesium.transmeta.com> <E16Yu52-00015I-00@starship.berlin> <20020207203451.GE26826@bluemug.com> <E16YvYs-00015d-00@starship.berlin>
In-Reply-To: <E16YvYs-00015d-00@starship.berlin>
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 09:54:30PM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On February 7, 2002 09:34 pm, Mike Touloumtzis wrote:
> > Some possible available avenues of argument for you are:
>
> I think you're just arguing for the sake of argument, which basically sums
> up all the arguments we've seen against this.
Not at all. I really believe that embedded unnecessary information in
the kernel is a bad idea. I don't want my kernels to get any bigger
than they are now unless useful features are being added (I have no
problem with that). I develop for embedded devices, so I'm particularly
sensitive to this issue.
My understanding is that "keep features out of the kernel if possible"
is the majority opinion, not a crackpot weirdo stance.
> Let me put it in simple terms: you've got an alarm clock, haven't you? When
> you set the alarm, you don't need to have any little light on the front that
> tells you the alarm is set, do you? Because, after all you're not stupid,
> you know you set it. And you can always get out of bed and look at the
> position of the switch, right?
I don't think this is a close enough analogy to illustrate anything.
The examples I chose to illustrate my points were IMHO closely related
software packaging issues.
miket
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-07 21:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-04 16:01 How to check the kernel compile options ? David Balazic
2002-02-04 16:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-04 17:02 ` David Balazic
2002-02-04 17:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-04 17:12 ` David Balazic
2002-02-04 17:16 ` Allan Sandfeld
2002-02-04 18:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-04 18:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-02-04 18:24 ` Ben Greear
2002-02-04 18:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-04 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 23:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-04 23:34 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-02-04 18:09 ` Samuli Suonpaa
2002-02-04 17:34 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-04 17:50 ` David Relson
2002-02-04 18:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-05 22:02 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-05 22:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-06 9:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 4:13 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 9:32 ` Marco Colombo
2002-02-07 13:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 18:26 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 19:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 20:34 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 20:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 21:08 ` Mike Touloumtzis [this message]
2002-02-07 21:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 23:58 ` John Alvord
2002-02-09 21:59 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-07 21:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 21:41 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 22:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 22:13 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 22:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-08 20:53 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-09 12:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-11 16:07 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-09 21:39 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-06 16:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-04 18:34 ` David Relson
2002-02-04 21:09 ` Keith Owens
2002-02-05 16:30 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-04 22:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] <0C01A29FBAE24448A792F5C68F5EA47D217218@nasdaq.ms.ensim.com>
2002-02-12 21:26 ` Paul Menage
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-06 4:55 Rick A. Hohensee
2002-02-05 23:56 Andries.Brouwer
2002-02-06 0:14 ` Ian S. Nelson
2002-02-06 0:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-06 0:20 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-06 10:36 ` Christoph Rohland
2002-02-06 14:16 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-06 15:31 ` Christoph Rohland
2002-02-06 22:13 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-06 15:59 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-06 16:32 ` Padraig Brady
2002-02-09 18:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-11 0:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-11 19:05 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-11 21:17 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-12 0:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-12 16:38 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-12 17:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-12 17:26 ` Padraig Brady
2002-02-12 18:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-12 21:06 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-12 22:10 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-12 22:33 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-13 0:49 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-13 2:35 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-12 18:26 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 14:19 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-13 15:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 23:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 16:25 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-13 18:09 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-13 18:26 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 18:27 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-13 18:35 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 18:40 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-13 21:51 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 22:02 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-13 23:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 23:21 ` Ben Greear
2002-02-13 23:39 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-13 22:17 ` Ben Greear
2002-02-13 23:13 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-14 16:48 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-15 22:51 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-15 23:04 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-16 1:10 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-19 11:14 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-16 0:58 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-02-22 19:56 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-23 7:02 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-02-26 6:30 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-03-01 21:01 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-14 1:02 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-17 12:11 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-12 17:35 ` Chris Friesen
2002-02-11 18:37 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-11 19:26 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-06 16:26 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-06 17:26 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-06 18:16 ` David Relson
2002-02-07 7:56 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-07 9:12 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-07 12:22 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-07 21:11 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-08 8:25 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-07 8:52 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-06 11:29 ` Marco Colombo
2002-02-06 13:26 ` Horst von Brand
[not found] <fa.c5n369v.1a10827@ifi.uio.no>
2002-02-04 16:21 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-02-04 16:01 David Balazic
2002-02-04 21:47 ` Matti Aarnio
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