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From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.4 and 2.5: remove Alt-Sysrq-L
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:42:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020315144237.G24984@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020315142854.E24984@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20020315131612.C24984@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <30439.1016201464@redhat.com> <20020315142854.E24984@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <1901.1016202759@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <1901.1016202759@redhat.com>; from dwmw2@infradead.org on Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:32:39PM +0000

On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:32:39PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> rmk@arm.linux.org.uk said:
> >  Well, I've tried this approach, Linus rejected it.
> > If you'd like to take up this problem, be my guest. 
> 
> Not really - I also tried already. But I'm disinclined to offer band-aids
> for the brokenness.

I don't know of any Linux kernel that has ever been able to cope with PID1
dying.  I certainly remember facing the PID1 dying causing lockup as far
back as 1.3 kernels, and I even tried to fix it back then.  The argument
put forward for not fixing it is that PID1 should not exit.  Period.

The point here is not that the kernel itself can't cope with PID1 exiting,
but that the code _bypasses_ the protection put into the kernel against
PID1 exiting.

-- 
Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)                The developer of ARM Linux
             http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html


  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-15 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-15 13:16 [PATCH] 2.4 and 2.5: remove Alt-Sysrq-L Russell King
2002-03-15 14:11 ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-15 14:28   ` Russell King
2002-03-15 14:32   ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-15 14:42     ` Russell King [this message]
2002-03-15 14:46     ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-15 14:54 Nicholas Berry
2002-03-15 15:02 ` Russell King
2002-03-19  8:00   ` Kasper Dupont
2002-03-19 16:28     ` Russell King
2002-03-19 21:30       ` Kasper Dupont
2002-03-20  0:22         ` Alan Cox

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