From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:59:48 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:59:38 -0500 Received: from relay1.pair.com ([209.68.1.20]:63750 "HELO relay.pair.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:59:34 -0500 X-pair-Authenticated: 68.5.32.62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Shane Nay To: Alan Cox , zippel@linux-m68k.org (Roman Zippel) Subject: Re: Bitkeeper licence issues Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:01:27 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: davem@redhat.com (David S. Miller), lm@bitmover.com, pavel@ucw.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: <20020319195935Z292522-889+124341@vger.kernel.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Hans Reiser's team of Russian wizards is simply a couple of years > ahead of everyone else moving all real software development to the > czech republic and india, the phone support to the philipines and > the hardware to taiwanese and chinese bulk build to order. Normal software development in economic terms is normally treated as a fixed cost to produce a "product". Fixed costs determine market entry and exit points, not profitability. Phone support, bulk built to order, and the way that most Taiwanese firms do hardware are variable costs. Economically speaking it's an apples and oranges comparison, and to say one follows from the other is not really accurate. Free software development on the other hand is a bit more tricky, and I could see how exporting the work in certain scenarios would make a lot of sense. However, to this point most of us working in the Free Software industry are funded by companies working on "products". (You're sounding like a lot of my friends in the SARHK when speaking of China Alan 8). Asside- Fixed costs also determine other things like the number of competitors that can operate in a market for a particular good. Pretty much all software is an Oligopoly whereas the other things you mention are much closer to true competition. The reason Free Software development is more tricky is that if Free Software were to rule the world, then it would be individual consultants vying for the same business of modifications to Free code bases. So, in the alternate universe where all software is Free Software, Perfect Competition would probably rein supreme and there would be 1000s of consultants vying to make custom modifications for particular companies. In that alternate universe, then programmers from western countries would be probably be driving dump trucks by day, and programming at night for fun. Luckily I learned how to varnish and stain wood when I was a kid, so even if the alternate universe hits, I'm ready.