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From: "Jakob Østergaard" <jakob@unthought.net>
To: Tony.P.Lee@nokia.com
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, lmb@suse.de, woody@co.intel.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, zaitcev@redhat.com
Subject: Re: InfiniBand BOF @ LSM - topics of interest
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 01:25:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020515012500.D1444@unthought.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D7B558499107545BB45044C63822DDE3A206D@mvebe001.NOE.Nokia.com>

On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 01:19:13PM -0700, Tony.P.Lee@nokia.com wrote:
...
> 
> I like to see user application such as VNC, SAMBA build directly
> on top of IB API.  I have couple of IB cards that can 
> send 10k 32KBytes message (320MB of data) every ~1 second over 
> 1x link with only <7% CPU usage (single CPU xeon 700MHz).  
> I was very impressed.  
> 
> Go thru the socket layer API would just slow thing down.

Not going thru the socket layer will slow you down even more.  It will require
you to re-write every single performance-requiring application every time some
bloke designs a new network interconnect with a new API.

I'd take a 5% performance loss over re-writing all my code any day.

But why would it be any slower going over the socket API ?  After all, quite a
lot of people have put quite a lot of effort into making that API perform very
well.

> 
> With IB bandwidth faster than standard 32/33MHZ PCI, one might
> run DOOM over VNC over IB on remote computer faster 
> than a normal PC running DOOM locally....

But not until you port DOOM to the API-of-the-day.   Sweet idea though  ;)

> 
> One might create a OS that miror the complete process state
> info (replicate all the modified page) everytime that 
> process is schedule out. 

Latency kills.

Adding tracks to the highway doesn't make it any shorter.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-14 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-14 20:19 InfiniBand BOF @ LSM - topics of interest Tony.P.Lee
2002-05-14 20:42 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-05-14 23:25 ` Jakob Østergaard [this message]
2002-05-14 23:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15 15:45   ` Timothy D. Witham
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-16 23:42 Woodruff, Robert J
2002-05-16 10:37 Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
2002-05-15 23:58 Woodruff, Robert J
2002-05-16  0:32 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15 20:47 Tony.P.Lee
2002-05-15 21:36 ` Russell Leighton
2002-05-15 22:41   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-05-16  4:51   ` Ashok Raj
2002-05-15 20:37 Woodruff, Robert J
2002-05-15 20:55 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-05-15 21:01 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15  1:29 Tony.P.Lee
2002-05-15  2:35 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15  5:01   ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-05-15 11:29     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15 14:27       ` Ashok Raj
2002-05-15 16:34     ` Stephen Hemminger
2002-05-14 22:15 Woodruff, Robert J
2002-05-15  2:42 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-05-13 16:25 Woodruff, Robert J
2002-05-13 16:36 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-05-14 20:09   ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-05-14 20:23     ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-05-14 20:33       ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-05-14 21:01         ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-05-13 23:42 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-13 23:26   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-05-14  0:19     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14  0:19   ` Joel Becker
2002-05-15  0:11 ` Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine

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