From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 17 May 2002 03:08:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 17 May 2002 03:08:44 -0400 Received: from adsl-63-194-239-202.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net ([63.194.239.202]:57099 "EHLO mmp-linux.matchmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 17 May 2002 03:08:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 00:07:50 -0700 From: Mike Fedyk To: Neil Conway Cc: vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua, Martin Dalecki , Anton Altaparmakov , Alan Cox , Russell King , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 61 Message-ID: <20020517070750.GD627@matchmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Neil Conway , vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua, Martin Dalecki , Anton Altaparmakov , Alan Cox , Russell King , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020514202811.01fcc1d0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> <3CE22B2B.5080506@evision-ventures.com> <200205151138.g4FBcGY13110@Port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> <3CE24CB9.8DFC5821@ukaea.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 12:55:37PM +0100, Neil Conway wrote: > You can (and must) safely "touch the cable" in between TCQ commands in > the right circumstances. You are therefore touching the cable while the > hwgroup is busy, hence my suggestion that the flag we use to prevent > touching the cable during DMA should be named something other than busy. > Ahh, but with TCQ the concept of busy changes. The wire (simplified) is only busy when the tags are being transfered, otherwise the cable is unused unless the cable has been "locked" by one of the devices.