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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:36:11 +0200
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@e-mind.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Siemens powermanagment patent? [was Re: patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)]]
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Hi!

> > What, so there are _no_ patents or other restrictions on any of then
> > commercial embedded OS vendor products?  I would imagine that you need
> > to pay some sort of license fee to those vendors in order to use their
> > code for products you sell.
> 
> Thousands of them. Some of them like the Siemens power management patent
> really hurt Linux too.

Can you elaborate on this one?

> I'd suggest Andrea does something else. Ask the Red Hat people for a formal
> confirmation he can use it, just like IBM with RCU. I have this funny feeling
> that he'll get an extremely positive response.

Does he need to ask permission? Code is GPL-ed, "no additional
restrictions" in GPL should shield him...
									Pavel

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