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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@it.uc3m.es>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: "Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@it.uc3m.es>,
	Steve Whitehouse <Steve@ChyGwyn.com>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, chen_xiangping@emc.com
Subject: Re: Kernel deadlock using nbd over acenic driver
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 14:10:42 +0200 (MET DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200205291210.g4TCAgh32404@oboe.it.uc3m.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020529112137.GA397@elf.ucw.cz> from Pavel Machek at "May 29, 2002 01:21:37 pm"

"A month of sundays ago Pavel Machek wrote:"
> > > Init routine is called from insmod context or at kernel bootup (from pid==1).
> > 
> > That's nitpicking!  
> 
> I did not want to be nitpicking. init() really is considered process

Well, OK.

> context, and it looks to me like unplug is *blocking* operation so it
> really needs proceess context.

unplug unsets the plugged flag and calls the request function. The
question is whether the request function is allowed to block. I argue
that it is not, on several grounds:

    1) it's also - and principally - been called from various task
    queues, which aren't really associated with a process context, and
    certainly not with the process context that set the task

    2) blocking is really bad news depending on how we got to the
    request function, which is not a really predictable thing, since
      i) it can change with every kernel version
      ii) it depends on what somebody else does

   3) if we block against memory for buffers, in particular, the 
   the system is now very likely to be dead, since VM just went
   synchronous.

and probably you know lots better arguments!


Peter

  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-29 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-16 22:54 Kernel deadlock using nbd over acenic driver Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-17  8:44 ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-23 13:21   ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-24 10:11     ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-24 11:43       ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-24 13:28         ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-24 15:54           ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-27 13:04             ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-27 19:51               ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-27 13:44         ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-29 10:51           ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-29 11:21             ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-29 12:10               ` Peter T. Breuer [this message]
2002-05-29 13:24                 ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-01 21:13       ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-06-05  8:48         ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-06-02  6:39           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] <3CE40A77.22C74DC1@zip.com.au>
2002-05-16 20:28 ` Peter T. Breuer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-16 13:18 chen, xiangping
2002-05-15 21:43 Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-16  8:33 ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-15 17:43 Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-15 19:43 ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-16  5:15   ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-16  8:04     ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-16  8:49       ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-15 16:01 Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-14 17:42 chen, xiangping
2002-05-14 17:36 chen, xiangping
2002-05-14 18:02 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 16:07 chen, xiangping
2002-05-14 16:32 ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-14 16:48 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15 22:31 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-05-16  5:10   ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-16  5:19     ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-16 14:29       ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-05-16 15:35         ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-16 16:22           ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-05-16 16:45             ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-16 16:35               ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-17  7:01                 ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-05-17  9:26                   ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-14 15:05 chen, xiangping
2002-05-14 15:11 ` Jes Sorensen
2002-05-10 15:39 chen, xiangping
2002-05-10 15:02 chen, xiangping
2002-05-10 15:11 ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-14 14:58 ` Jes Sorensen
2002-05-06 15:05 chen, xiangping
2002-05-07  8:15 ` Steven Whitehouse
2002-05-06  2:26 chen, xiangping
2002-05-06  8:45 ` Steven Whitehouse

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