From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Question about pseudo filesystems
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 19:27:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020907192736.A22492@kushida.apsleyroad.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0209070858380.21690-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>; from viro@math.psu.edu on Sat, Sep 07, 2002 at 09:36:26AM -0400
Alexander Viro wrote:
> If your rules are "it's pinned as long as there are opened files created
> by foo()" - very well, there are two variants. The basic idea is the same
> - have sum of ->mnt_count for all vfsmounts of our type bumped whenever we
> call foo() and drop whenever final fput() is done on a file created by foo().
Thanks -- that's what I implemented, except I used a semaphore instead
of a spinlock.
I wanted to check that it's safe to call `mntput' from `->release()',
which seems like quite a dubious thing to depend on. But if you say it
is safe, that's cool.
> > It's a good example of why the module interface is stupidly wrong, and
> > __exit needs to be called by the module unloader, returning 0 if it's
> > ok to unload. Then your __exit can whatever condition it's interested
> > in and, if all is well, do the kern_umount.
>
> BS. Instead of playing silly buggers with "oh, we will start exiting
> and maybe we'll bail out, let's just hope we won't find that we want
> to do that after we'd destroyed something" you need to decide what kind
> of rules you really want for the module lifetime. The rest is trivial.
> Again, variant (a) (which is absolutely straightforward - add one line
> in foo(), modify one line in foo(), delete one line in init) is enough
> to give the desired rules. Optimizing it if needed is not too hard -
> see (b) for one possible variant...
Unfortunately, your suggestion, which I ended up implementing, is not
safe from race conditions.
The problem comes during the call to `->release()'. If that's really
the last reference to the module, than as soon as I call `mntput' the
module might be unloaded. In practice this doesn't happen, but if there
were a long scheduling delay... (see CONFIG_PREEMPT), it could.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-07 18:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-04 18:02 Question about pseudo filesystems Jamie Lokier
2002-09-07 12:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-07 13:36 ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-07 18:27 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2002-09-07 19:47 ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-08 2:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-08 2:43 ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-15 1:41 ` Moving a mount point (was Re: Question about pseudo filesystems) Rob Landley
2002-09-08 16:00 ` Question about pseudo filesystems Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 19:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-09 20:06 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 0:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10 1:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 1:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10 2:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 3:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10 3:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 9:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 10:17 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-11 18:35 ` [RFC] Raceless module interface Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11 18:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-09-11 19:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11 20:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-09-11 21:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11 21:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-11 21:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 1:42 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 2:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-12 3:13 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 3:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 3:53 ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-12 4:11 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 4:40 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 5:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 14:46 ` Gerhard Mack
2002-09-13 0:39 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13 2:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 5:35 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 4:52 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 5:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 7:00 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13 8:18 ` Helge Hafting
2002-09-12 3:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 1:31 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 9:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-09-12 11:27 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-12 13:03 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 13:44 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13 1:30 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13 2:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 6:51 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13 13:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 13:52 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 14:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 14:33 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 14:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 14:59 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 15:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 15:27 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 15:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 2:17 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-16 16:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 16:36 ` Understanding the Principles of Argumentation #3 Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 16:42 ` Robinson Maureira Castillo
2002-09-16 17:29 ` Cort Dougan
2002-09-16 22:31 ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-01 14:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-01 14:27 ` David Woodhouse
2002-09-13 15:59 ` [RFC] Raceless module interface Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 3:14 ` David Gibson
2002-09-13 10:35 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13 13:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 15:13 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13 15:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 15:55 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13 16:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 16:39 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 17:12 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 0:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-16 1:49 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-16 21:36 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-16 21:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 22:44 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-11 15:28 ` Question about pseudo filesystems Bill Davidsen
2002-09-11 19:36 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 20:12 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10 1:39 ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-09 20:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 6:48 ` Kai Henningsen
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