From: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] smptimers, old BH removal, tq-cleanup, 2.5.39
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 00:45:59 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020930004559.A19071@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209291927400.15706-100000@localhost.localdomain>; from mingo@elte.hu on Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 07:52:17PM +0200
Hi Ingo,
First of all, YES! I am going to start testing first thing tomorrow.
On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 07:52:17PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> i've done the following cleanups/simplifications to task-queues:
>
> - removed the ability to define your own task-queue, what can be done is
> to schedule_task() a given task to keventd, and to flush all pending
> tasks.
>
> this is actually a quite easy transition, since 90% of all task-queue
> users in the kernel used BH_IMMEDIATE - which is very similar in
> functionality to keventd.
This is a problem I ran into in my "kill-BHs" project. I was wondering
if callbacks executed through keventd might have significantly
higher latency (and potential starvation) compared to IMMEDIATE_BH
driven task-queues and that might break existing drivers. Is this not
going to be an issue ?
> net_bh_lock: i have removed it, since it would synchronize to nothing. The
> old protocol handlers should still run on UP, and on SMP the kernel prints
> a warning upon use. Alexey, is this approach fine with you?
The cache line bouncing of global_bh_lock and net_bh_lock in
run_timer_tasklet() show up in our profiles, so getting rid of
them is a good thing (TM).
> scalable timers: i've further improved the patch ported to 2.5 by wli and
> Dipankar. There is only one pending issue i can see, the question of
> whether to migrate timers in mod_timer() or not. I'm quite convinced that
> they should be migrated, but i might be wrong. It's a 10 lines change to
> switch between migrating and non-migrating timers, we can do performance
> tests later on. The current, more complex migration code is pretty fast
> and has been stable under extremely high networking loads in the past 2
> years, so we can immediately switch to the simpler variant if someone
> proves it improves performance. (I'd say if non-migrating timers improve
> Apache performance on one of the bigger NUMA boxes then the point is
> proven, no further though will be needed.)
I will start testing this patch and will try to get you some numbers.
Thanks for taking this up.
Thanks
--
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com> http://lse.sourceforge.net
Linux Technology Center, IBM Software Lab, Bangalore, India.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-29 19:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-29 17:52 [patch] smptimers, old BH removal, tq-cleanup, 2.5.39 Ingo Molnar
2002-09-29 18:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-29 18:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-29 19:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-29 19:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-29 18:54 ` Dave Jones
2002-09-29 19:15 ` Dipankar Sarma [this message]
2002-09-30 0:20 ` David S. Miller
2002-09-30 4:33 ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-09-30 4:28 ` David S. Miller
2002-09-30 4:38 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-09-30 12:55 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-30 14:50 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-09-29 19:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-30 0:39 ` David S. Miller
2002-09-30 6:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-30 21:45 ` george anzinger
2002-10-01 3:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-01 4:18 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-01 5:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-01 8:00 ` george anzinger
2002-10-01 5:33 ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-03 7:10 ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-09-30 23:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-09-30 16:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-30 23:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-09-30 17:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-01 0:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
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