From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:28:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:28:23 -0400 Received: from 62-190-216-107.pdu.pipex.net ([62.190.216.107]:56836 "EHLO darkstar.example.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:27:48 -0400 From: jbradford@dial.pipex.com Message-Id: <200209301640.g8UGe0ef006799@darkstar.example.net> Subject: Re: v2.6 vs v3.0 To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:39:59 +0100 (BST) Cc: jdickens@ameritech.net, mingo@elte.hu, jgarzik@pobox.com, kessler@us.ibm.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, saw@saw.sw.com.sg, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com In-Reply-To: from "Linus Torvalds" at Sep 29, 2002 10:42:04 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > How many people are sitting on the sidelines waiting for guarantee that ide is > > not going to blow up on our filesystems and take our data with it. Guarantee > > that ide is working and not dangerous to our data, then I bet a lot more > > people will come back and bang on 2.5. > > How the hell can I _guarantee_ anything like that? You don't need to - just post "2.5.x ide is working, and not dangerous to your data", and loads of people will start using it. That way, we get it tested a decent amount. Of course when somebody's root fs get fsck'ed, (pun intended), the list is bound to get a flamewar^Whelpfully worded bug report. The false rumors that IDE was fubar for a long time in 2.5.x, coupled with the fact that a lot of recent 2.5.x kernels don't compile, seem to have scared off people which is rediculous. John.