From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 01:33:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 01:33:27 -0400 Received: from stroke.of.genius.brain.org ([206.80.113.1]:14017 "EHLO stroke.of.genius.brain.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 01:33:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 01:39:29 -0400 From: "Murray J. Root" To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Bitkeeper outrage, old and new Message-ID: <20021022053929.GA26367@Master.Wizards> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20021022033834.GA24991@Master.Wizards> <200210220526.g9M5QKCr027064@habitrail.home.fools-errant.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200210220526.g9M5QKCr027064@habitrail.home.fools-errant.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 01:26:20AM -0400, Hacksaw wrote: > >It is NOT the same as claiming a criminal/immoral/unethical act - you > >still want me to produce software - you just want me to do it for free. > > I think RMS has made this clear a number of times. He doesn't expect > programmers to produce software for free, he expects them to produce software > that the end user can easily modify for their own applications, without legal > or technical hassles. > > He's happy for them to be paid for this work. Without selling it? Rather tricky to accomplish. And yes, he does effectively say selling it is wrong - when he says that users should be allowed to give it away. If you can get it for free, why would you pay me? Don't tell me for support - someone else does the support. I do the writing. Basically, he's trying to set limits on what I do with what I created. There is no justification for that. I contribute time and effort to open source because I want to return something for all the benefit I get out of it, not because some self-appointed arbiter of morals tells me I should. -- Murray J. Root ------------------------------------------------ DISCLAIMER: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ ------------------------------------------------ Mandrake on irc.freenode.net: #mandrake & #mandrake-linux = help for newbies #mdk-cooker = Mandrake Cooker