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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:49:12 -0800
From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
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Whoohoo!  Here we go.  Someone please rattle his cage about the BK license
and we can keep this going for months!

This reminds me of soc.singles, a venerable hangout for weirdos of all
kinds, yours truly included years and years ago.  I once posted some
inflammatory statement and disappeared to Japan for several months
(installing a supercomputer at Tokyo Institute of Technology, look at
the acronymn, gotta love it), and then came back.   3 months later.
Read soc.singles.  They were *still* arguing about it.

Then and now, the thought that occurred was "get a life".

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 01:38:48PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
>     Yup.  It's high time they realized that Linux exists today solely because a 
>     lazy Finnish student conned a bunch of folks into doing his homework.
> ]
> 
> That's a colorful way of saying that Linux was developed by Linus
> Torvalds.  If by "Linux" you mean the kernel whose maintenance is
> discussed on this list, that is true.
> 
> You're surely aware that when the media, companies, and users say
> "Linux", they usually do not mean the kernel.  They usually have in
> mind an entire operating system in which Linux is used.  This entire
> system wasn't developed by Linus Torvalds--it is basically GNU, which
> was started in 1984.  The system exists because idealistic programmers
> had a vision of a different kind of society and had the determination
> to make it happen.
> 
> If you want to avoid predictably steering readers into confusion, each
> time you say (in one way or another) that Linux was developed by Linus
> Torvalds, you need to explain that Linux is one component of the
> GNU+Linux system which is what users typically run.
> 
> For further discussion, and for responses to all the usual
> counterarguments, see http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html.
> 
> 
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