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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	chrisl@vmware.com
Subject: Re: [Bug 417] New: htree much slower than regular ext3
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 05:12:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030227212403.D28DA3C7CB@mx01.nexgo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030227140019.G1373@schatzie.adilger.int>

On Thursday 27 February 2003 22:00, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > 11 ms sounds like two seeks for each returned dirent, which sounds like a
> > bug.
>
> I think you are pretty dead on there.  The difference is that with
> unindexed entries, the directory entry and the inode are in the same order,
> while with indexed directories they are essentially in random order to each
> other.  That means that each directory lookup causes a seek to get the
> directory inode data instead of doing allocation order (which is sequential
> reads on disk).
>
> In the past both would have been slow equally, but the orlov allocator in
> 2.5 causes a number of directories to be created in the same group before
> moving on to the next group, so you have nice batches of sequential reads.

I think you're close to the truth there, but out-of-order inode table access 
would only introduce one seek per inode table block, and the cache should 
take care of the rest.  Martin's numbers suggest the cache isn't caching at 
all.

Martin, does iostat show enormously more reads for the Htree case?

Regards,

Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-27 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-27 17:31 [Bug 417] New: htree much slower than regular ext3 Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-28  2:55 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-02-27 21:00   ` Andreas Dilger
2003-02-28  4:12     ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2003-02-27 21:33       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-13 21:04     ` [Ext2-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2003-03-07 15:46 ` Alex Tomas
2003-03-08 17:38   ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-07 23:27     ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-03-09 19:26       ` Alex Tomas
2003-03-09  7:08     ` Alex Tomas
2003-03-10 17:58       ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-10 21:25       ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-03-11 21:57   ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found] ` <20030307214833.00a37e35.akpm@digeo.com>
     [not found]   ` <20030308010424.Z1373@schatzie.adilger.int>
2003-03-09 22:54     ` [Ext2-devel] " Daniel Phillips
2003-03-08 23:19       ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-09 23:10   ` Daniel Phillips
     [not found] ` <20030309184755.ACC80FCA8C@mx12.arcor-online.net>
     [not found]   ` <m3u1ecl5h8.fsf@lexa.home.net>
2003-03-10 20:45     ` [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree Daniel Phillips
     [not found]       ` <3E6D1D25.5000004@namesys.com>
     [not found]         ` <20030311031216.8A31CEFD5F@mx12.arcor-online.net>
2003-03-11 10:45           ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-11 13:00             ` Helge Hafting
2003-03-11 13:41               ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-11 17:16                 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-03-11 19:39                 ` Helge Hafting
2003-03-11 20:19                   ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-11 21:25                 ` atomic kernel operations are very tricky to export to user space (was [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree ) Hans Reiser
2003-03-11 23:49                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-03-10 20:48     ` [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree Daniel Phillips
2003-03-10 21:04       ` John Bradford
2003-03-10 21:28         ` Andreas Schwab
2003-03-10 21:50           ` Filesystem write priorities, (Was: Re: [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree) John Bradford
2003-03-14 21:55             ` [Ext2-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2003-03-10 21:33         ` [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree Daniel Phillips
2003-03-10 21:47           ` [Ext2-devel] " Bryan O'Sullivan
2003-03-10 22:02             ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-03-11  8:47               ` Jakob Oestergaard
2003-03-11 11:27                 ` John Bradford
2003-03-14 21:57               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2003-03-15  8:39                 ` jw schultz

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