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From: "Clayton Weaver" <cgweav@email.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] new syscall: flink
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 04:01:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030407090123.11516.qmail@email.com> (raw)

Do file access capabilities (and ACLs where those
are enabled)attach to the directory entry or the inode for a file? 

I remember Linus wishing that capabilities
on files could have different multiple concurrent values in different directory entry contexts.
Seems like the kernel would need to be able
to trump these "capability views", which
would need to be associated with directory
entries, based on data stored with the inode
(so that you can drop capabilities when creating
a link but you can't elevate them).

(Someone already mentioned in this thread that traditional unix permissions are stored in the inode.)

The restricted directories with loose permissions
on the files within them looks more like an
application programmer issue than a kernel issue to me. The parent or server could always chmod the file(or copy it to a read-only file and open that) before execing or passing the open fd.

So who owns the inode? Or does "owned by
uid #N" only make sense in the context of a
directory entry? If so, does ownership of the linked-to fd propagate to the new directory
entry from the old directory entry? What if it
had been unlinked before the flink()?

Seems like the ultimate security constraints on files have to be stored in the inode or your security is potentially hosed merely by the ability to create a new directory entry for the same inode from a different uid (whether it
needs to do it in a different directory is a
separate issue). 
 
Regards,

Clayton Weaver
<mailto: cgweav@email.com>

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             reply	other threads:[~2003-04-07  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-07  9:01 Clayton Weaver [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-11 17:11 [PATCH] new syscall: flink Clayton Weaver
2003-04-10 22:10 Clayton Weaver
2003-04-11  1:02 ` David Wagner
2003-04-10  0:31 Clayton Weaver
2003-04-08 13:06 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-07 23:57 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-07 16:50 Clayton Weaver
2003-04-07 17:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-04-07 17:37 ` David Wagner
2003-04-07 18:43 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-08  5:06   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-07 20:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found] <20030407102005.4c13ed7f.manushkinvv@desnol.ru>
     [not found] ` <200304070709.h37792815083@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu>
2003-04-07  7:35   ` Vitaly
2003-04-07 14:57     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-07 18:47       ` Wichert Akkerman
2003-04-07 20:05       ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2003-04-07 20:32         ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-07  2:56 Mark Grosberg
2003-04-07  3:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-07  7:29   ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-04-07  8:18     ` Olivier Galibert
2003-04-07  8:35       ` Jakub Jelinek
2003-04-07  9:11         ` Olivier Galibert
2003-04-07 11:13           ` Alan Cox
2003-04-07 12:31           ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-07 12:54             ` Andreas Schwab
2003-04-07 13:19               ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-07 20:55   ` Fredrik Tolf
2003-04-07 21:43     ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-04-07 22:17       ` Fredrik Tolf
2003-04-07 22:25         ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-04-07 22:55           ` Fredrik Tolf
2003-04-06 19:05 Dan Kegel
2003-04-06 19:07 ` Dan Kegel
2003-04-06 19:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-06 20:08   ` Malcolm Beattie
2003-04-06 20:33     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-06 21:12   ` Alan Cox
2003-04-07  2:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-07  2:29       ` David Wagner
2003-04-07  9:09         ` Malcolm Beattie
2003-04-07 11:02           ` Olivier Galibert
2003-04-07  5:25       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-07  6:43         ` David Wagner
2003-04-07  6:21           ` Vitaly
2003-04-07 16:17           ` Shaya Potter
2003-04-06 18:39 Ulrich Drepper
2003-04-07 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-07 20:37   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-08  0:23   ` Ulrich Drepper

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