From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>
To: Frank Davis <fdavis@si.rr.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel support for non-english user messages
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:53:04 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030408235304.T1422@schatzie.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E93A958.80107@si.rr.com>; from fdavis@si.rr.com on Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 01:02:16AM -0400
On Apr 09, 2003 01:02 -0400, Frank Davis wrote:
> I wish to suggest a possible 2.6 or 2.7 feature (too late for 2.4.x and
> 2.5.x, I believe) that I believe would be helpful. Currently, printk
> messages are all in english, and I was wondering if printk could be
> modified to print out user messages that are in the default language of
> the machine. For example,
>
> printk(KERN_WARN "This driver is messed up!\n", 'en'); //Prints the
> english text .
>
> printk(KERN_WARN "This driver is messed up!\n", 'wel'); //Prints the
> welsh translation of the english text.
>
> printk(KERN_WARN "This driver is messed up!\n", getdefaultlanguage());
>
> I'm looking for a possible uniform design to make this happen, short of
> adding a complete machine translation module to the kernel. :) Userland
> internationalization support is already provided(I haven't personally
> used other languages besides English, but I've seen the options), but a
> kernel module or printk addition that handles localized kernel messages
> seems reasonable.
>
> Thoughts, comments?
I don't think you will get support from anyone for non-english messages
in the kernel. Some people think there is already too much text segment
in the kernel (c.f. tests that show kernel size shrinks by 200kB or whatever
when printk is defined to a no-op).
There was a proposal to make printks be more generic/consistent by someone
at IBM, but I don't know what happened to it.
My suggestion would be to add the required i18n support to klogd, so that
kernel messages are translated as they are removed from dmesg into syslog.
Then, like any i18n support, you build a message catalog from the printk
strings in the kernel and have klogd do the lookups/translation in user
space.
Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/
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Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-09 5:02 kernel support for non-english user messages Frank Davis
2003-04-09 5:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09 5:50 ` Frank Davis
2003-04-09 9:37 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-04-09 11:04 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-09 5:53 ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2003-04-09 8:08 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-04-09 9:33 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09 10:24 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-04-09 22:07 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-09 22:41 ` Frank Davis
2003-04-09 22:55 ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-04-09 23:53 ` Johannes Ruscheinski
2003-04-10 1:43 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-10 18:57 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-10 20:13 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-04-10 19:42 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 0:48 ` Christer Weinigel
2003-04-11 15:56 ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-04-10 20:53 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-10 23:05 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-04-11 5:39 ` DevilKin
2003-04-11 5:49 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2003-04-11 6:17 ` DevilKin
2003-04-11 17:51 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-04-11 11:57 ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-11 17:55 ` David Lang
2003-04-10 20:36 ` John Bradford
2003-04-10 22:20 ` Shaya Potter
2003-04-11 4:19 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-11 4:23 ` Shaya Potter
2003-04-11 8:40 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-04-11 9:09 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 10:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-11 11:11 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 11:40 ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-24 23:25 ` versioned filesystems in linux (was Re: kernel support for non-english user messages) Stewart Smith
2003-04-25 7:14 ` John Bradford
2003-04-25 15:20 ` Matthew Sell
2003-04-25 15:45 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-25 16:18 ` versioned filesystems in linux (was Re: kernel support for John Bradford
2003-04-25 17:06 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-25 17:48 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-25 19:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-25 21:21 ` 9-track tape drive (Was: Re: versioned filesystems in linux) John Bradford
2003-04-25 21:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-25 21:31 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-26 6:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-26 6:57 ` John Bradford
2003-04-25 18:13 ` versioned filesystems in linux (was Re: kernel support for John Bradford
2003-04-25 18:34 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-10 8:19 ` kernel support for non-english user messages Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09 13:11 ` Giuliano Pochini
2003-04-10 3:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-10 9:05 ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-10 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-10 18:32 ` John Bradford
2003-04-12 2:55 ` Chris Wedgwood
2003-04-09 19:01 kernel support for non-english " Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-09 19:25 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-09 23:31 Jim Keniston[UNIX]
2003-04-10 19:01 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 9:21 ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-11 12:16 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 13:39 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 13:11 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 14:48 ` John Bradford
2003-04-10 10:47 kernel support for non-english " Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-10 19:21 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-10 20:41 ` Robert White
2003-04-11 9:21 ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-11 20:49 ` Robert White
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Riley Williams
2003-04-15 3:44 ` Robert White
2003-04-15 11:08 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-15 11:08 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-15 14:07 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-11 21:04 ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-11 21:31 ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-04-10 20:54 kernel support for non-english " Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 21:08 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-04-10 21:20 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-10 22:06 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-04-11 7:38 ` Ville Herva
2003-04-10 22:13 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 22:33 ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-04-10 23:23 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 10:10 Chuck Ebbert
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2003-04-11 11:29 ` Tim Connors
2003-04-11 13:17 kernel support for non-English " Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 13:40 ` John Bradford
2003-04-16 1:59 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-04-16 14:28 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 14:37 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-16 16:20 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 17:04 ` Bruce Harada
2003-04-16 18:34 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 18:37 ` Bruce Harada
2003-04-11 14:37 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-12 8:22 ` Kai Henningsen
2003-04-12 11:08 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 14:52 Paolo Ciarrocchi
2003-04-11 16:57 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 17:38 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 18:10 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-04-11 20:02 kernel support for non-english " Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
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2003-04-11 20:55 ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-11 22:21 kernel support for non-English " Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-12 7:55 ` John Bradford
2003-04-12 7:48 ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 11:40 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-14 12:55 ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-14 18:15 ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 23:04 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-04-15 13:21 ` Alex Combas
2003-04-15 18:02 ` Eric Altendorf
2003-04-17 13:46 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-17 15:07 ` Randolph Bentson
2003-04-17 18:49 ` Eric Altendorf
2003-04-14 13:18 ` Sean Neakums
2003-04-14 14:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-16 5:03 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-11 23:36 Jim Keniston[UNIX]
2003-04-11 23:38 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 9:52 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 15:20 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 15:34 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-12 17:22 ` Robert P. J. Day
2003-04-13 3:59 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-13 6:21 ` John Bradford
2003-04-12 16:47 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 20:31 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-14 9:07 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-14 21:27 Chuck Ebbert
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