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From: Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kernel support for non-English user messages
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:21:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200304111823_MC3-1-3412-C273@compuserve.com> (raw)


> I thought you might be seriously in need of some mental evaluation
> when you claimed that users "liked looking up error numbers in
> manuals".


 Not the looking up part, but that fact that the explanation
for every single message the software could emit was available.

 Today it's all HTML documents or PDFs or something, but it's still
a staggering amount of information.  I have ~300MB of Oracle
documentation on one desktop, 6 of it server error messages alone.
Every possible message is explained to some extent, except this one:


-----------------------------------------------------------------------
ORA-00600 internal error code, arguments: [string], [string], [string],
                   [string], [string], [string], [string], [string]

Cause: This is the generic internal error number for Oracle program
exceptions. It indicates that a process has encountered a low-level,
unexpected condition.
<SNIP>
The first argument is the internal message number. Other arguments
are various numbers, names, and character strings. The numbers may
change meanings between different versions of Oracle. 

Action: Report this error to Oracle Customer Support after gathering
the following information:
<SNIP>
Note: The cause of this message may manifest itself as different errors
at different times. Be aware of the history of errors that occurred
before this internal error. 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


which is currently pretty much the only explanation available for
a whole lot of Linux error messages. I can go read the source when e.g.
the md driver splats its internal status dumps all over the console
during array rebuild, but that doesn't help much.


> Whee. April first is long gone, but the jokers stay around.


 Our kind knows no season.


--
 "Let's fight till six, and then have dinner," said Tweedledum.
  --Lewis Carroll, _Through the Looking Glass_

             reply	other threads:[~2003-04-11 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-11 22:21 Chuck Ebbert [this message]
2003-04-11 22:53 ` kernel support for non-English user messages Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-12  7:55   ` John Bradford
2003-04-12  7:48 ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 11:40 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-14 12:55   ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 17:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-14 18:15       ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 23:04       ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-04-15 13:21       ` Alex Combas
2003-04-15 18:02       ` Eric Altendorf
2003-04-17 13:46         ` Alan Cox
2003-04-17 15:07         ` Randolph Bentson
2003-04-17 18:49           ` Eric Altendorf
2003-04-14 13:18   ` Sean Neakums
2003-04-14 14:23   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-16  5:03     ` Denis Vlasenko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-14 21:27 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 20:31 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-14  9:07 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-12 16:47 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 15:20 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 15:34 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-12 17:22   ` Robert P. J. Day
2003-04-13  3:59     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-13  6:21   ` John Bradford
2003-04-12  9:52 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 23:38 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 23:36 Jim Keniston[UNIX]
     [not found] <A46BBDB345A7D5118EC90002A5072C780BEBA7DD@orsmsx116.jf.inte l.com>
2003-04-11 20:55 ` kernel support for non-english " Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-11 20:02 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 16:57 kernel support for non-English " Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 17:38 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 18:10 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-04-11 14:52 Paolo Ciarrocchi
2003-04-11 13:17 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 13:40 ` John Bradford
2003-04-16  1:59   ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-04-16 14:28     ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 14:37       ` Alan Cox
2003-04-16 16:20         ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 17:04       ` Bruce Harada
2003-04-16 18:34         ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 18:37           ` Bruce Harada
2003-04-11 14:37 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-12  8:22 ` Kai Henningsen
2003-04-12 11:08   ` John Bradford
     [not found] <20030409051006$1ecf@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030409081011$5257@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030409221017$6c98@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <20030409225009$2558@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <20030410014009$78fb@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <20030410200019$3e8f@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <20030410202016$7d48@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-04-11 11:29             ` kernel support for non-english " Tim Connors
2003-04-11 10:10 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 23:23 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 22:13 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 22:33 ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-04-10 21:20 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-10 22:06 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-04-11  7:38   ` Ville Herva
2003-04-10 20:54 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 21:08 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-04-10 19:21 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-10 20:41 ` Robert White
2003-04-11  9:21   ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-11 20:49     ` Robert White
2003-04-11 22:53       ` Riley Williams
2003-04-15  3:44         ` Robert White
2003-04-15 11:08           ` Alan Cox
2003-04-15 11:08           ` Alan Cox
2003-04-15 14:07           ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-11 21:04     ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-11 21:31       ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-04-10 10:47 kernel support for non-english " Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-09 23:31 Jim Keniston[UNIX]
2003-04-10 19:01 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11  9:21   ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-11 12:16     ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 13:39       ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 13:11         ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 14:48           ` John Bradford
2003-04-09 19:25 kernel support for non-english " Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-09 19:01 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-09  5:02 Frank Davis
2003-04-09  5:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09  5:50   ` Frank Davis
2003-04-09  9:37     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-04-09 11:04   ` Alan Cox
2003-04-09  5:53 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-04-09  8:08 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-04-09  9:33   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09 10:24     ` Matti Aarnio
2003-04-09 22:07   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-09 22:41     ` Frank Davis
2003-04-09 22:55       ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-04-09 23:53         ` Johannes Ruscheinski
2003-04-10  1:43       ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-10 18:57         ` Alan Cox
2003-04-10 20:13           ` Trond Myklebust
2003-04-10 19:42             ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11  0:48               ` Christer Weinigel
2003-04-11 15:56                 ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-04-10 20:53             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-10 23:05               ` Jon Portnoy
2003-04-11  5:39                 ` DevilKin
2003-04-11  5:49                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2003-04-11  6:17                     ` DevilKin
2003-04-11 17:51                     ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-04-11 11:57               ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-11 17:55                 ` David Lang
2003-04-10 20:36           ` John Bradford
2003-04-10 22:20             ` Shaya Potter
2003-04-11  4:19               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-11  4:23                 ` Shaya Potter
2003-04-11  8:40                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-04-11  9:09                 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 10:59                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-11 11:11                     ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 11:40                 ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-10  8:19       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09 13:11 ` Giuliano Pochini
2003-04-10  3:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-10  9:05   ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-10 17:35     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-10 18:32       ` John Bradford
2003-04-12  2:55       ` Chris Wedgwood

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